Talk:Bruce W. Carr

F190 incident
DFW 190 incident described here is not true. The actual belly landing by Bruce Carr didn't happen in November 1944, it happened after VE Day in about the third week of April 1945. After the end of the war Allied Pilots started taking captured German aircraft back to their bases. He simply got a ride to where there were some FW 190s and flew it back to his base but didn't know how to get the gear down and belly landed the plane. Here is the actual video taken in May of 1945. Notice car is standing next to the crashed airplane clean shaven in a pressed uniform and wearing a parachute. There are other scenes in the video but the placard at the end of the video that shows the date as April 20 something in 1945. It's not clear how the false story got started. Jackhammer111 (talk) 05:16, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can see that there were a number of attempts to correct the article, but it was reverted back because of the Air Force article stating the information. I too think the story would need extraordinary proof to be validated given the extremely improbable nature of the event.  However, there is the Air Force article officially stating the event.  The refutation seems to be from article by Thomas Van Hare in the Aviation Geek Club and YouTube video, https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-greatest-escape-that-never-happened-the-popular-story-of-how-lt-carr-stole-an-fw-190-to-fly-back-to-his-unit-seems-too-good-to-be-true-and-thats-because-it-isnt/, but I don't know if this is enough to be conclusive debunk of the original story.  I agree that the presence of Carr with parachute in the photos and photographic evidence doesn't support the Air Force article, but is there official incident report for the event recorded by USAAF?  Thomas Van Hare in the article doesn't provide much primary source or evidence himself in refuting the event. 69.250.67.68 (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC)