Talk:Brunel University London

Islamic Extremism?
I mean, it is pretty interesting/shocking/funny isn't it?

Also, can someone can clear this up for me - was Jarad Akbar doing 'Multimedia Technology + Design' or 'Mathematics, Technology + Design'? There's conflicting reports in the media saying both, and I don't see how your average journalist could mistake Mathematics for Multimedia but can do vise-versa... This is interesting because, if true, it would lead me to believe that either; a) Spin doctors/the press felt Mathematics adequately trumped up his dangerous terrorist profile (no matter how horrible his Flash presentations were). b) MMTD, being relatively new and dynamic course that is gaining momentum would be better off without this association - ie. Akbar was a maniacal mathematics nut.


 * Do you mean Jared Akbar? (I could find no Jarad Akbar on Google who was relevant to Brunel.) If we clear that up, how do you propose to use this information to improve the article on Brunel University? Should he be included as a 'notable' alumnus? Implication: if 'yes' then he should have a Wiki article as a notable person. Feel free to create one. --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

New Course Offerings
Should it be included that the university is going to offer a masters degree in Cult TV and films? http://www.brunel.ac.uk/785/courses%20leaflets/100466CultfilmmediaFINALA4PROOF2.pdf --Bridgemo 02:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)bridgemo


 * No it shouldnt.

University ratings
Is there any definition for "performed well"? "In the 2008 QS World University Rankings Brunel was ranked 296th in the world (and 38th in the UK).[16] In the 20101/12 rankings, Brunel was placed 351st globally, making it the 42nd highest ranked UK university.[17] In the 2011/12 THES world university rankings, Brunel ranked 251-275 (shared),": this has the language of success, but the numbers (296th, 251st, 251st or worse) IMO spell out mediocrity or even failure. --141.84.151.96 (talk) 12:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC) --141.84.151.96 (talk) 12:06, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on WikiProject Universities.)

There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities. Timrollpickering 23:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC) A student studying 3rd Phd in Electro-magnetic Bio-metrics organic genetics quantum meta-physics Global satelite navigation transmission station internet radio television contents creativity system terral-lingual mechanical film engeneering science. presently acting president for global university union council stationed in brunel campus. Please any explanation of any strategic sustainable education questions of all kind are welcome. First topic of debate "Are religions loosing their credibility intergrity and influence on society? students should speak for or against.


 * This broader point applies to schools as well. Many articles say that 'this school performs well above average' or 'exceptionally well' without any quantification or references. They can't all be above average! (Or perhaps it's a sampling artifact ... those that warrant a Wiki article do perform better than average.) --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Can someone include the TIMES Engineering rankings since Brunel is ranked top 100 (93rd) worldwide?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashmasht (talk • contribs) 21:53, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Section on Runnymede campus
Given that this campus has now been sold off, I believe it makes the majority of the section on the Runnymede campus no longer relevant. I suggest we keep the section but just leave the text: "On 18 May 2007 it was announced that the University has agreed to sell its campus at Runnymede to Oracle Homes Runnymede Limited for £46.5 million, and that from October 2007 all activities will be consolidated on the Uxbridge campus.[9]". Any objections?


 * No objections from me. Runnymede is history, but we must record the fact that the university once owned it. --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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Science and engineering alumni?
I was struck by the fact that all the alumni listed here were in the arts, media, sports, politics etc., and none for work in science and engineering (although some had studied these subjects). When I was there most of the students were in science and engineering – have none become notable for work in these fields?

While I'm at it, does anybody know whether the university newspaper Le Nurb is still going? If the university radio station gets a mention, then so should the newspaper, even if it is no longer being printed. (Like Runnymede, it's part of the university's history.) --Wally Tharg (talk) 10:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Several places in the article on the foundation of Brunel there are factorial errors concerning the role of engineers versus other academic disciplines and it is worth reading Topping's book on this matter.


 * There was never any suggestion that Brunel was set up primarily to educate chartered engineers, that is quite wrong. Brunel was always intended to house the departments of Physics, Chemistry, Maths, and Engineering from Acton. Topping realized that the Acton High Street building (plus dozens of temporary locations) was totally over-crowded and moreover already had a junior school with several hundred boys of age 13 to 16. In science students, were taking external degrees of the University of London and engineers were studying for diplomas of the professional engineering bodies. Under the Brunel College of Technology, all students would work for a Diploma of Technology (Dip Tech) which would give automatic entry to all professional bodies in Engineering, Physics, Chemistry and Maths. The only new space that Middlesex County Council (MCC) could offer the new College was a building just completed at the old Woodlands County School. The older buildings at that school had been used by Acton Technical College for some years. This new building is often shown in pictures of Brunel from the pre-Uxbridge days but in reality it only housed Physics, Chemistry and Maths with most of Engineering operating as before in the Technical College on Acton High Street. MCC wanted to expand Woodlands so more departments could move but there was no more room.
 * The use of the name 'Brunel' was only agreed after some energetic arguments but Topping viewed Brunel as primarily a technologist and a man who could use science for the good of the country which was rather the ideal to which we all aspired back in 1957 as Britain tried to recover from that terrible war. At Brunel's first ever graduation ceremony at the end of 1960, held at Woodlands, Jim Topping joked about some of the alternatives that had been suggested for Brunel. JeffEnglishAuithor (talk) 11:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. If Topping (VC when I was there) wrote a book on Brunel, then surely this must be a primary source for the article. (It was the same with my old school until I took a large axe to the article.) There should also be a list of principals and VCs. If you've read Topping's book, which I haven't, then you are in the ideal position to correct the errors and improve the article. I eagerly await updates!  --Wally Tharg (talk) 11:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Completely agree, additions/corrections using the Topping book as a source would be excellent, as would a list of principals and VCs.Rangoon11 (talk) 01:55, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

"Innovate or die"
Does anyone have a source for this being the motto of the university? Can find nothing on the website... 82.39.57.207 (talk) 18:16, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

I've removed it - I work for the university and we have no record of it being the official motto - but if anyone can find any historical evidence that it once was i would love to see it. Crabwithachocice (talk) 09:17, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

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Is Uxbridge really in London?
OK, they got tube trains. But is Uxbridge really in London? Do any Londoners recognise this? Should it be Brunel University, London at least? Threeseasonsofwinter (talk) 22:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Uxbridge has always been described as being within Greater London. However, irrespective of where it may or not be in the strict geographical sense, we must respect its actual name.  So your suggestion is not valid.  Thanks for your thoughts, though.  Best.  Kfz-Technik Deutsch-Techniker (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

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