Talk:Brushy Bill Roberts

Infobox needed
This article needs an infobox. I've added a tag template above to attract the attention of editors able to do this. --MegaSloth (talk) 05:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ – P AINE E LLSWORTH  C LIMAX !  00:36, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

More on the article
I have never seen an article so small and with some errors. There is not even a photograph of Brushy Bill Roberts on here! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.148.219 (talk) 20:03, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ –  Paine Ellsworth   C LIMAX ! 01:44, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

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Affidavits
McDaniels, along with Severo Gallegos, Martile Able, Jose Montoya, and Bill and Sam Jones, all of whom had known Billy the Kid, signed affidavits claiming to verify that Roberts was in fact Billy the Kid.[10][11][12]

The above statement that currently appears in the article is not correct. See page 113, “Alias Billy the Kid”, C. L. Sonnichsen & William V. Morrison. Creative Texts Edition, Copyright 2014 “William Shafer, Bill Jones’ grandson, wrote on July 9, 1950: I am sorry, but Mr. Jones does not feel that he can sign your affidavits that your man is Billy the Kid. It seems to me that if he were Billy the Kid he would not need affidavits to prove his contention.”

“Sam Jones wrote: Received your letter and am sorry but feel I can’t sign the affidavit. I’m old and don’t feel like being obligated so.”

Martile Able (Marcela Bilberry Abel) was born 2 November 1872 in Cooke County, Texas. She was in the home of her parents, John Crouch Bilberry and Elizabeth Jane Walker in Lampasas County, Texas, in the 1880 census. She signed an affidavit that she believed Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid, but it is extremely unlikely that she ever saw William Bonney. Find A Grave Memorial # 121263674 DeWitt Weaver also signed an affidavit that he believed Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid. DeWitt was born about 1890 in east Texas, and could not have seen William Bonney. Find A Grave Memorial # 97964768 BBAhistorian (talk) 05:07, 5 January 2017 (UTC)BBAHistorian


 * The article has been amended to reflect that the Jones bros. did not sign affidavits. That was actually reflected in this source, as well.  As for those who signed but who may have not actually known BB, that is an interesting thought.  Maybe something should be added to the article about that if the source is clear.  Please keep in mind that things like "it is extremely unlikely that she ever saw William Bonney" have to be quotes from a source and more than just editorial opinion and conjecture.   Paine Ellsworth   u/ c  02:46, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Note about the so-called "autobiography" of Billy the Kid and the Billy the Kid Museum
Billy the Kid: An Autobiography is merely a reprinting by Creative Texts Publishers of the book, Alias Billy the Kid: The Story of Brushy Bill Roberts by C. L. Sonnichsen and William V. Morrison, published by the University of New Mexico in 1955.

The new edition printed by CTP is the same book, with an added foreword by Daniel A. Edwards, who also gets credit as "editor".

It appears that someone probably associated with the Billy the Kid Museum in Hico, Texas wants to add a link in the article to the museum's hokey and unreliable website, the homepage of which prominently features advertising for Edwards' arrogation of Sonnichsen's and Morrison's book. Carlstak (talk) 22:04, 2 April 2017 (UTC)