Talk:Bryan R. Wilson

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This article primarily consists of attributed quotes which are presented as fact; this makes it inherently POV. The quotations need to be presented as such, with clear distance, and the main article needs to present a neutral point of view.--Eloquence* 14:39, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Quotes are not facts, if properly attributed. All quotes as far as I can see are attributed, so it is well within NPOV. --Zappaz 18:29, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Hagiography
Obviously, this article is nothing more than a hagiography. In his later years, Wilson became a "gun for hire" by scientology. Examples of his writings: And here's an article by Prof. Stephen Kent about Wilson, taking his theories apart:
 * TOP INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS DECLARE GERMAN GOVERNMENT IS “NOT QUALIFIED TO DICTATE WHAT IS AND IS NOT A RELIGION”
 * Apostates and New Religious Movements (don't trust them!)
 * Expertise on Confidential Religious Writings (claimed that Christianity has "esoteric" components!)
 * An Authoritative Examination of Scientology’s Religiosity (yes, its a religion!)

He was also an "expert witness" in a french trial for scientology - it did not help, several scientologists were convicted. --Tilman 20:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * More like this link where Stephen A. Kent takes Wilson's statement that "Scientology is a religion" apart, instead claiming that "Scientology is a multinational corporation". However, this is an example that there are claims that Bryan R. Wilson is not free from faults. (Which is IMHO a realistic position). ... said: Rursus ( m bork³ ) 19:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Dr. Bryan Wilson, Oxford University was just one of many schollars that came in defense of Scientology against religious persecution in Germany:


 * Professor Liliane Voye, University of Louvain
 * Professor Karel Dobbelaere, Catholic University of Louvain
 * Professor Dario Sabbatucci, University of Rome
 * Professor Juha Pentakainan, Helsinki University
 * Professor (ret.) Arilv Hvivtfeldt, University of Copenhagen
 * Professor Petro Bilaniuk, University of Toronto
 * Professor Darrol Bryant, University of Waterloo, Ontario
 * Professor Lonnie Kliever, Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at Southern Methodist University, Dallas
 * Professor Frank Flinn, Washington University, St. Louis
 * That he expresed his opinion doesn't make a gun for hire and his opinion is in the main stream opinion of Scientology by schollars. Is Steven Kent's opinion is actually in the minority.
 * I believe that his family, students and friends would be very offended of such a an acusation.

Bravehartbear 13:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * How much money did Wilson and the others receive from scientology for their "work"? --17:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Not enoght to bent the integrity of an Oxford Profesor. Bravehartbear 02:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? ... said: Rursus ( m bork³ ) 19:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * To Tilman's initial comment: yes, if the article is true, B. R. Wilson was certainly a superman, a new son of God, kind of. The article is in some deep need of WP:NPOVization ~ I've marked some of the most obvious boasts with, a hagiography is much less valuable than a neutral-in-tone encyclopedic article. ... said: Rursus ( m bork³ ) 19:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Not enough sources
While there's no question as to Wilson's notability, the article is not properly sourced. 2 footnotes are not enough. Ideally, every time a fact is inserted, it should be sourced. Read WP:SOURCE for more information. Drumpler 12:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Have identified and added sources for the majority of statements and re-written some of them where they were copied verbatim. Jayen 466 09:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)