Talk:Bryant–Denny Stadium

corrected name of Southern Miss defender from Trev Faulk to Jasper Faulk Timeran 18:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Assessed
I graded this as "start" class. If we could add some citations (footnotes) and a bit more here are there I think it would be "B" class on on its way. Good work so far! Jody B  00:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

South Endzone expansion
I'm sorry if I don't post this correctly but it has been verified that south endzone expansion plans are in development. Is this news that should be added to the article, if so I would appreciate it if someone with more experience would do so. The link to the article is "UA explores expansion of Bryant-Denny Stadium" Kchambers 18:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's still early. I don't think there's been official approval from the UA Board of Trustees to go ahead with it.  I think adding that should wait until then or something official anyway.  -Fnlayson 02:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

rankings not accurate for B-D stadium..
I read this article while searching for the rankings of the largest on-campus stadiums. In my search on the web, I found this article to be incorrect. B-D is the 7th largest overall behind and in order of: Michigan, Penn St., Tenn., Ohio St., Rose Bowl in Pasadena(UCLA), and Georgia's Sanford. However, this makes it the 3rd Largest in the SEC not 4th !!! Even your own wikipedia confirms this. There is even dispute as to how big Georgia's actually is b/c some have it at 91,000+ which is less than B-D. However, I am not sure on this tidbit. Please check this out but you will find I am correct so please change this article to make B-D the   3rd largest in the SEC. JT, Dallas. 70.254.166.19 17:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * So why not provide your source? It may be inaccurate, not up to date or OK.. -Fnlayson 17:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
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updated link
I updated the link to the stadium's page on rolltide.com Dreammaker182 02:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreammaker182 (talk • contribs)

Fail Room
Anyone want to update this page to reflect the new name of the visitor's locker room, "The Fail Room" http://www.rolltide.com/view.gal?id=39707 68.17.147.100 (talk) 04:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm really not sure if it's worth noting, but others may... – LATICS   talk  06:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I've created an article on James M. Fail for the express purpose -- I'll be honest -- of getting this factoid into Template:Did you know on the main page. Melchoir (talk) 08:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC) ...I'll add it here as well. Melchoir (talk) 01:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Stadium record
--STADIUM RECORD needs to be updated —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.168.179.43 (talk) 05:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Elaborate. – LATICS   talk  06:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly
I have twice removed the statement: "This would possibly make it the fourth-largest stadium in the country, the seventh-largest non-racing stadium in the world, and the largest stadium in the Southeastern Conference." This is a conjecture based on the current seating capacities listed for other stadiums and the projected future capacity of B-D Stadium. This needs to stay out because it specifically does not have its own source, so it falls under both WP:CRYSTAL and WP:SYN, which is combining sources to come up with a fact that none of the sources actually say (synthesis). Stick with actual published facts, not "possibilities" unless an actual published article states that when completed, B-D Stadium will be the largest in the SEC...etc. --JonRidinger (talk) 01:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The new addition will add 9,000 seats, as reported on rolltide.com, and the new capacity will be over 101,000. The current largest stadium in the SEC is Neyland Stadium, which you will find has a capacity less than 101,000, making Bryant-Denny the largest in the SEC in 2010.  As long as you have a source saying the capacity will be over 101,000 (which we do) and another source saying the current largest stadium is less than 101,000 (which we do as well), then I don't think we need a third source that explicitly states the obvious. CH52584 (talk) 04:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, in Wikipedia, you do need a source that states the "obvious" especially when the obvious in this case is conjecture. Read WP:SYN which is exactly what you are talking about: "Editors should not make the mistake of thinking that if A is published by a reliable source, and B is published by a reliable source, then A and B can be joined together in an article to reach conclusion C. This would be a synthesis of published material that advances a new position, and that constitutes original research."  What you just described is just that. Here, the facts we have are that B-D Stadium is currently undergoing an expansion of 9,000 seats that will raise its capacity to over 101,000.  Those are the facts.  Once that is complete OR there is a published source that states "B-D Stadium will become the largest stadium in the SEC when complete..." then you can't include it as a fact, even if it does seem "obvious".  The reason is mainly due to WP:CRYSTAL, which states: "It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced. It is not appropriate for editors to insert their own opinions or analyses."  Probably the biggest reason for this policy is the fact that just because something is planned, doesn't mean it will happen.  Never mind the possibility of other stadiums also expanding, so the conjecture could be wrong.  Stick with the published facts.  --JonRidinger (talk) 13:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * This is not an A + B = C situation like what's described at WP:SYN. It's just a simple comparison of two seating numbers for the same timeframe (A > B).  However, it is a future outcome and the ranking against other stadiums in the country and non-racing stadiums in the world are uncited.  These comparisons can wait until the construction is complete, imo. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I was talking about: the future rankings. A= the new capacity of B-D Stadium will be 101,000 (sourced); B= the current capacity of Neyland Stadium is just over 100,000 (sourced); so C= B-D will be the largest stadium in the SEC once it's completed (unsourced).  It's not a horribly inaccurate prediction and makes total sense - I'm not arguing its logic - but it's unsourced as is the future world non-racing stadium number.  If the source describing the expansion said in it "once completed, B-D Stadium will be the largest stadium in the SEC" then by all means include it, but since it doesn't, just stick with what the published source says, which is that B-D Stadium is currently undergoing an expansion project that will bring capacity to over 101,000.  The future-largest-in-the-SEC argument only holds if all current stadiums stay at the same capacity.  Just one look at the Neyland Stadium article shows it has a history of changing quite a bit. --JonRidinger (talk) 19:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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