Talk:Bryce Canyon National Park

Bryce Canyon and Bryce Canyon National Park distinction
Do we need seperate virtually duplicate articles for Bryce Canyon and Bryce Canyon National Park? It seems like unnecessary duplication of effort (and photos) to me... I'd think that the Canyon article could simply be a redirect to the NP one because they contain virtually the same information. KJ 23:16 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)


 * This was fixed some time ago. --mav

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Comparisons
Writing this article in a comparison to Zion is an insult to it. No article should be written as a comparison - the subject should be just that. Also, giving the location relative to Zion is ridiculous as it rovides no relevant reference point.


 * It was co-administered with Zion for much of its history and is still a secondary close-by destination that people who go to Zion go to. Its proximity and long history of being linked makes such comparisons apt (not to mention the fact that the geology is related in that each part exposes overlapping parts of the Grand Staircase). --mav 04:11, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image descriptor
The footnote for the image Bryce_Cabin_circa_1881.jpg "Ebenezer Bryce and his family lived in Bryce Canyon, in this cabin, here photographed circa 1881." is ambigous. It is not clear if the year 1881 is the year when the cabin was photographed or the family lived.

Can someone fix this?

Mahadevan T S 10:21, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Image replacement
I think this one trumps all - http://stashbox.org/561809/pano-bryce10-cropped.jpg or this one http://stashbox.org/561815/pano-bryce12-cropped.jpg Weaklid (talk) 07:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to replace the second panoramic image in the article with this one, unless someone thinks this would not be a significant improvement.


 * I couldn't notice any major change. Please enlighten me. - Mahadevan Subramanian 07:39, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It is done now, thats why both pictures look the same now :-). This was the old one:[[Image:Bryce canyon pan.jpg|thumb|left|400px]] --Dschwen 07:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, great! The new one is definitely, a significant improvement. The old one looks a bit unprofessional. -- Mahadevan Subramanian 06:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Nationalparksgallery.com
User:Npgallery seems to want the link to his/her website (based on his/her username, I assume it's the website) on the page. I removed it stating spamish - low quality pictures, commercial website with lots of ads, many better pics out there, but then Npgallery put it right back saying rv vandal. Nationalparks 05:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Those are extremely subjective assertions. That site is hardly 'spammish', nor does it have 'low quality' pictures, nor does it have lots of ads. And there are no rules against 'commercial' sites. I suspect user national parks is IP 67.182.22.71 who has been deleting/altering lots of links lately and adding links to what appears to be his/her site. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Npgallery (talk &bull; contribs).


 * 1. Take a look at http://www.nationalparksgallery (dot) com/items/3288.JPG this pic from the site, as an example. It is very pixelated, as are the rest of the pictures from the site.  Honestly, I don't think these pictures add value to the page...  If they did, you could just upload them directly to the page itself.
 * 2. My IP is 18.95.6.172, as any admin could tell you. I hadn't changed the links on this page.
 * 3. You didn't sign your post here using 4 tildes, as you are supposed to.
 * 4. Please refer to External links (numbers 1, 2, 4, and 8).
 * 5. Why don't we wait for other people's opinions (also see User Talk:Npgallery)...
 * Nationalparks 06:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Very pixelated? You need to see an eye doctor. And your claim the 'rest' of the pictures on the site are 'very pixelated' too is flat out untrue. This user nationalparks simply appears to have nothing better to do with his time than attack people/sites based on specious criteria he makes up. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Npgallery (talk &bull; contribs).


 * The jpgs are low resolution and have been highly compressed. The edges of the features are not distinct.  Also see No personal attacks. Nationalparks 07:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * And it's not only here, but most of the NPS sites have a link to Npgallery's site. Nationalparks 07:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I've renamed the title here, as it triggers the Talk page spam filter. Tijuana Brass (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Ununique unique structures
This article states in the opening section that it has unique geological structures called hoodoos. Hoodoos exist elsewhere all over the world and are by no means unique to Bryce Canyon. This should be removed or rephrased both here and on the Wikipedia main page where an image of the canyon is the featured image. Ben W Bell  talk  01:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see a single instance of the word "unique" anywhere in the article
 * ICE77 (talk) 06:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Gallery
This article is a good example of what happens when there's so many good images available that they're allowed to overwhelm the text. I've placed some into a gallery at the end of the article while leaving others in places where they seemed especially relevant and representative of the corresponding text. Changes are welcome, but consider aesthetics and relevance before adding new ones in - Wikipedia is not a photo archive, and there are far more images of Bryce Canyon out there than this article could possibly need. Tijuana Brass (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking of transwiki-ing the 4 photos in the gallery over to Commons (and eliminating the gallery entirely). Given that this is an FA, I wanted to get a sense of what the other editors thought before doing this. hike395 (talk) 04:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In general we don't use galleries, so I would be in favour of moving it to commons (I suspect those pix are already there). Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Cleaned-up. Will need to do that once in a while. Images need to stay highly relevant. --mav (talk)

Uncited para on climate
This needs to be cited to a WP:RS before going back in article. --mav (please help review urgent FAC and FARs) 19:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The record high temperature at the park headquarters was 98°F on July 14, 2002. The record low temperature was -28°F on December 10, 1972.  Average annual precipitation is 15.53 inches.  The wettest year was 1993 with 25.06 inches and the dryest year was 1950 with 7.25 inches.  The most precipitation in one month was 8.83 inches in September 1939.  The most precipitation in 24 hours was 3.81 inches on August 21, 1947.  The snowiest year was 1952 with 206.0 inches.  The most snowfall in one month was 82.0 inches in January 1993.

WP Earthquakes banner
I've removed the WP Earthquakes banner as the article doesn't mention earthquakes or seismicity, but I've also added a WP geology banner, which does seem appropriate - if anyone has a good reason why this page should be in the Earthquakes Project, please just add it back. Mikenorton (talk) 17:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

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Hoodoo collapse
An iconic hoodoo called the Sentinel fell last month due to frost wedging. Pretty fascinating to see geology in action. I'm not sure how frequently this happens at Bryce, but it seems pretty noteworthy. Maybe this belongs in the Geology section. Do any editors who know more about geology than I do have an opinion?Pistongrinder (talk) 18:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Elevation vs Zion
The statement that Bryce is 1000 feet higher than Zion is rather conservative. For example, Bryce's visitor center is almost 4000 feet higher than Zion's (7900 vs 3934). 75.169.158.172 (talk) 17:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Featured picture scheduled for POTD
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Question and comments
1. If the park is not a canyon then why is it improperly called "Bryce Canyon National Park" and why the NPS does not properly rename it simply to "Bryce National Park"?

2. I think the history section should be placed before anything else, including the geography and climate sections.

3. The section called "Creation of the park" does not tell the story in a linear and chronological fashion. It should be reorganized and rewritten so that the sequence is from the past to the present. I see several instances of jumping back and forth in time.

ICE77 (talk) 06:35, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Featured article - Status
Greetings, Today I added several cn-tags within the article; and the Ref. improve notice. If article is to remain FA, improvements are needed. Thanks, JoeNMLC (talk) 15:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)