Talk:Bucharest Bărăția

Title
"Bucharest Bărăţia" seems a very odd title. Why not just Bărăţia Church, which I see is not even a redirect at the moment? - Jmabel | Talk 07:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There are more churches in Romania named Bărăţia and all of them are pretty old and noteworthy. bogdan 09:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Bulgarian Catholic monks
I think the affirmation on ro.wiki, that they were Bulgarian monks is based on the misunderstanding of the inscription, which says it's part of the Bulgarian diocese (province), which encompassed parts of Wallachia. I would like a reference for this affirmation.

Bucharest does have a Bulgarian Catholic history, there's even a 19th century church built by the Bulgarian Catholics down the street on which I live, but I don't think that this church is part of it. bogdan 19:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I knew about the Diocese of Bulgaria and I had a look at the inscription, but nevertheless I decided to blindly trust what I read in the Romanian Wiki. Bulgarian Franciscan monks sound strange in the context of the 17th-century (they aren't many of them even today &mdash; those in Pleven are Poles, for example), but I thought the references listed may know better :) Never mind, thanks for clarifying.
 * P.S. I'm aware of the Bulgarian Catholic history of Ilfov, I may even write a few lines about it in the future (if I get hold of proper sources, even more than that). Have you photographed that church and if not, would you (though I suppose it's not in a good condition, since the Bulgarian Catholics have long left or been assimilated)? I could definitely make use of a photo :) Thanks, Todor→Bozhinov 20:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)




 * I took a picture today. The church was in the village of Cioplea, built on the land owned by the Dudeşti family by Bulgarian Catholic refugees in 1811-1813. Apparently, the nearby Dudești, Bucharest neighbourhood was also inhabited by Bulgarians, but Orthodox Bulgarians. bogdan 15:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Update
Actually, now that I know more about the history of Catholicism in Bulgaria, the mid-17th century was the only time it could have been built by Bulgarians: Chiprovtsi was in its heyday in 1666 and many local merchants traded in the Romanian lands. By that date, most Franciscans in Bulgaria were locals. Of course, I don't have any sources so I'll just readd Province of Bulgaria. Todor→Bozhinov 15:17, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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