Talk:Buckhead

Advertisements for Buckhead Not Needed
It's clear almost the entirety of this article is written by those who live in Buckhead or who are inordinately proud of it for personal reasons. Did you know almost every silly location in America repeats these various boasts (home to more than xxxx restaurants, fastest growing in xxxxx, most expensive in xxxx, ranked xx by xxxxx, etc...)? Most of the article as it exists now should be reduced to one or two sentences, citing recogized scholarly authorities, that Buckhead is an upper class neighborhood in Atlanta. The rest is just meaningless fluff. Want to sell Buckhead to others or need to boost your self-esteem about where you live - start a commercial website. Leave geography articles to geography facts - wikipedia is not the place to convince people of your position (that Buckhead is xxxxx). The whole article is starting to border on the inane and I find it in it's current form almost completely worthless. signed, Wolfgang (Vienna,Austria) 193.130.122.254 (talk) 04:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Schools
How can you talk about Buckhead schools and not mention the really good private schools that are a large part of the strength of the community. The Westminster Schools, the Lovett School, and Pace Academy are where most of the children from this area go to school. Not bad for a party area either though earlier closing times are changing that. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 167.234.12.79 (talk &bull; contribs).
 * Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anyone can edit. If you feel something is missing, just add it! - SCEhard T 16:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Removed duplicate paragraph
1/31/2006 Removed duplicate paragraph. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.36.152.153 (talk &bull; contribs).

Lovett
Not in Buckhead


 * Not true - You are not in Vinings until you cross the River. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.212.124 (talk • contribs).


 * Lovett is in Buckhead. The NW boundary of Buckhead is the main branch of the Chattahoochee River as can be clearly seen on the Google map of the neighborhood.  As can also be clearly seen, Lovett is inside this boundary.  Skiendog (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Buckhead
All I am sure is that Buckhead is basically the upper class neighbourhood of Atlanta (also known as "Beverly Hills of the South"). However, you must not exclude the fact that Inman Park and Midtown are neighbourhoods turning around into a creative, upper class neighborhood too. And may someone please add a picture of the ever expanding Buckhead Skyline.

You're wrong. Buckhead is more than a neighborhood, it is basically a 'city within a city', such as Hollywood, CA which is a part of the city of Los Angeles, CA. Buckhead has within it several different neighborhoods.R Young {yak ł talk } 08:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with R. Young here that Buckhead warrants its own article. I disagree on some points but my general opinion remains the same. First of all, Beverly Hills is incorporated whereas Buckhead isn't. I would also say that Hollywood, CA is more like midtown, not Buckhead, because of the way Hollywood is integrated into the street grid. Buckhead is almost like a separate suburban city, like a borough, with its own "downtown" (Lenox) and a somewhat seperate street grid. It only has two major arteries connecting it to downtown (Northside Parkway and Peachtree Street). I believe San Fernando Valley, Hollywood Hills, Bel Air are better analogies for Buckhead. They all have their own Wikipedia page as well. On the other hand, midtown is more like Upper East Side of Manhatten, Hollywood, CA or West Lake in L.A. in that it is a large subcity almost directly integrated into the street grid of the downtown district so boundaries blur. Inman Park / Little Five Points is more like West Hollywood, CA, Greenpoint in Brooklyn or  Gramercy Park in Manhatten in the sense that it is a very small, compact neighborhood within the city with its own character. Notice that all of them have their own Wikipedia pages. Netdragon (talk) 01:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Stereotypes
It is a common stereotype that citizens of the Buckhead and Morningside Communities tend to be snobby, rich, and egocentric people. I myself go to Grady High School in Midtown Atlanta, where you can see a big diference between the people of Morningside/Buckhead communities, and those of Candler Park, Inman Park, Midtown, and Grant Park neighbourhoods.
 * Obviously, any time an area is called snobby, it is stereotypical and should be removed from articles Netdragon (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Racial Comment/Bias -- Removed
I edited the following

Original was: During the late 1990s Buckhead saw a fair share of problems due to an increased crime rate around the area's nightclubs and shopping districts which was increasingly frequented by black patrons.

Currently is: During the late 1990s Buckhead saw a fair share of problems due to an increased crime rate around the area's nightclubs and shopping districts.

1) Crime increase in Buckhead was on par related to area. On a per capita basis Atlanta was in the top third for violent crimes against person (including muggings and such).  Please see http://www.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/ucr/Cius_97/97crime/97crime3.pdf for more information.

2) The " . . . black patrons" could be considered an inflamatory reference.  To me, the inference or parallel that was being drawn (influx of african americans raised crime rate) had no basis in fact.   I deleted it.

-Matthew

w hotel
it says "patrons have stayed at the w hotel..."

i didnt know there was a w hotel in buckhead. i know they are developing one in lenox, and there is one in sandy springs, but wasnt aware of one in buckhead. am i wrong, or is the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.27.162.90 (talk • contribs). 14:52, January 16, 2007
 * While the Lenox area is part of Buckhead, the new W Hotel is still under construction, so the article is wrong when it states people have stayed there. I have corrected. (BTW, the one existing W Hotel is in Dunwoody, not Sandy Springs). -- Satori Son 16:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The new W Hotel is supposed to be 38 stories and will be on Lenox Road, across from Lenox mall. It is little more than a fenced-off site.R Young {yak ł talk } 08:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

=Buckhead has borders.They are listed on pages 13 and 15 of the "Buckhead Guidebook" publshed by the Buckhead Coalition www.buckhead.net/buckheadcoaliton.The boundaries of Buckhead as defined by Wikipedia are wrong. Buckhead also has nieghborhoods which are defined at Buckhead.net also.I have tried to edit this Buckhead page but have failed.

Geography
The article defines Buckhead as being a community made up of several neighborhoods. It does not, however, identify which neighborhoods those are, which seems like a big deal. For that matter, if Buckhead's not a neighborhood but a conglomeration of them, why's it in the Atlanta Neighborhoods navbox? Also, why doesn't the article state what Buckhead's borders are? It clearly says the northern border is Atlanta's city limit, but the southern border is only identified in one spot (does the entirety of Buckhead's southern edge abut Midtown, or just where Peachtree turns from Road to Street?), the western border may or may not be mentioned (it's not clear whether Vinings was the end of the Pace property, is the end of West Paces Ferry Rd., or is the border of Buckhead). There is no mention of an eastern border. Finally, Buckhead covers 1/5 of Atlanta without containing or bordering any freeway? Considering that Atlanta's got three interstate highways passing through it, not counting spurs and bypasses, plus state highway freeways, that seems unlikely, and I'd think mentioning which ones pass through or border Buckhead would be very good as far as helping to explain its location and geographic context. The Literate Engineer 16:05, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

To answer, the neighborhoods are listed on http://www.buckhead.net/neighborhoods/neighborhood_map.html I'm adding a neighborhoods section - see the neighborhoods talk discussion item below. Netdragon (talk) 00:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

To answer your question, GA 400 (a state freeway) passes through Buckhead. No other freeway does.R Young {yak ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 09:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. See my note below. Netdragon (talk) 00:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know, the boundaries of Buckhead officially include the whole of the city of Atlanta northwest of I-85 and northeast of I-75. Buckhead is not a neighborhood but basically a superdistrict, like Hollywood, CA. Buckhead has some internal powers in areas such as planning and zoning, as well as taxation (i.e. Buckhead patrons may be taxed to fund shuttle routes etc).<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; color:#ff0000;">R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 08:52, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. Buckhead community also includes parts of West Paces Ferry, Northside Parkway, Moore's Mill, W. Wesley Rd, and Ridgewood West of I-75 bordering Vinings, and Cumberland in Cobb County and Bolton in Atlanta. In fact, drive across the bridge from Cumberland to Atlanta, and a sign says, "Entering Buckhead Community". Furthermore, the map at http://www.buckhead.net/neighborhoods/neighborhood_map.html shows neighborhoods Paces, Peachtree Creek, Margaret Mitchell and Pleasant Hill. Fixing accordingly Netdragon (talk) 00:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Neighborhoods
Like the Hollywood Hills, LA article, I'm going to list the neighborhoods based on the Buckhead site http://www.buckhead.net/neighborhoods/neighborhood_map.html Netdragon (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ask me
I am the Atlanta editor for www.emporis.com (the #1 skyscraper website in the world). As such, I do a lot of research. I happen to know about boundaries. Hope the above explanation clears things up. Note that local advertisers may claim that something in DeKalb County is "Buckhead" but that is simply false advertising.<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; color:#ff0000;">R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 08:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Better Photo?
Do we really need a photo of a thunderstorm?<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; color:#ff0000;">R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 08:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Buckhead, Midtown not neighborhoods
Greetings, Buckhead and Midtown are not neighborhoods, but are larger districts that are comprised of several neighborhoods. For example, Home Park and Atlantic Station are part of Midtown.<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; color:#ff0000;">R <span style="color:#006688; font-family:arial, helvetica;">Young {<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">yak <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;">ł <span style="font-family:arial, helvetica; font-size:x-small;">talk } 09:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The Buckhead Renewal
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A255207 This article provides a little insight into the current shift in Buckhead. I didn't want to post it on the main page because of "advertising"-- however, it's kind of sad that the old Buckhead (from the 90's) is pretty much dead and that it's trying to become more upscale. Buckhead was something special-- it had a unique style/flavor--but now it's going to become more fabricated.

"Beverly Hills of the South/East"?
This shorthand way of expressing the area's dynamics might be found in various promotional literature, but it's hardly an accepted nickname for the area. Qqqqqq (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)


 * seconded. I have seen it written in promotional literature, but it is far from an accepted nickname among the locals.  Skiendog (talk) 04:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

notable residents
I am removing the list of notable residents, and copying it here. While I don't doubt the validity of any of them, they don't contain a single source and it doesn't even seem half-decent. Buckhead is full of music industry professionals in addition to Kenny Rogers and Elton John, many more pro-athletes that just Fran Tarkenton, and too many world-famous JD's, MD's, and Fortune 500 executives for me to even begin listing at this late hour. In conclusion: make it thorough, cite sources, or it doesn't need to be up here at all. Skiendog (talk) 04:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Elton John, British singer
 * Kenny Rogers, country songwriter
 * Jermaine Dupri, record producer/rapper
 * Dallas Austin, record producer
 * Nancy Grace, American television host
 * Fran Tarkenton, retired Hall of Fame football player
 * Arthur Blank, Owner of the Atlanta Falcons
 * The-Dream, R&B/Soul Singer
 * Tyler Perry, Writer, Actor, Producer, Humanitarian
 * Justin Bieber, Teen singer
 * Ludacris, rapper/actor

Racial factors in 1990s nightlife-related violence
Racial factors were a primary topic of discussion in the press in relation to the increasing violence in Buckhead in the 90s - the references confirm that. That is not to say racial changes *caused* the violence, but simply that it was a primary topic of discussion, and that alone makes it imperative to mention if we are to have any understanding of what happened in Buckhead in the 1990s.

I would put out the challenge to anyone to find an in depth discussion of the topic where race is NOT mentioned as a factor. Creative Loafing even had it in the subtitle of an article: "The key to saving Buckhead. Atlanta's police shortage -- not racial tension -- to blame for Buckhead crimes" The fact that they had to say that (no, no) it *wasn't* race means that there was a primary perception that it *was* race, and this has to be mentioned in order to understand the history.

The quote from Frank Ski shows that in fact although race was discussed intensely - it was in fact the cruising which drove the violence. Keizers (talk) 01:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Race may have been a factor, but that's not the issue. We need more than just a quote from a V-103 DJ that "Young African-Americans with more disposable income now have the means to frequent upscale Buckhead clubs... But there is another element that follows them that does not frequent the bars and restaurants...They cruise." I don't that is the case, and that has not been proven. That was purely Mr. Ski's opinion. I lived through it, and none of these people had "disposable income", and if they did, they sure didn't show it.--Mmann1988 (talk) 04:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

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AJC's From Big Apple to Buckhead: Fundraiser grows war chest for cityhood push
Here is an article from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution at From Big Apple to Buckhead: Fundraiser grows war chest for cityhood push. Rjluna2 (talk) 14:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


 * As of October, it seems that the secession movement is receiving more media attention now that state legislators are agreeing to hold hearings on the issue. When would it be appropriate to mention this in the article? Arecaceæ2011 (talk) 03:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)