Talk:Budějovický Budvar/Archive 1

B.B. Bũrgerbrau
There is at least one more Budweiser marketed in the States under the name B.B. Bũrgerbrau. It should be mentioned 'somewhere'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.22.212 (talk) 12:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * B.B. Bürgerbräu (B.B. citizens' brew) refers to Bürgerliches Brauhaus Budweis (civic brewery house Budweis), and even older (1795) brewery based in the same Bohemian city. See http://www.bbburgerbrau.com and http://www.budweiser1795.com/ -- Matthead Discuß   11:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge
After researching the matter, I believe the best place for this article is under Budějovický Budvar. The opinions of most courts (including the EU) is that Anheuser-Busch owns the trademarks to the Budweiser name. The only recognized European trademark is for Budějovický Budvar, the Czech translation. As such, that seems the most sensible place to have this article (with a redirect coming from Budweiser Budvar, of course).

Of course, the company Budějovický Budvar has chosen to market their products under the German name Budweiser Budvar. They can do so if they wish, but I can't find a single country (other than the Czech Republic itself) that recognizes Budějovický Budvar's right to that name. And I don't know if the Czech Republic's trademark even matters at this point, as they are members of the EU, which, has recognized Anheuser-Busch as the rightful owner of the Budweiser name.Zhinz 03:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Which is a pity because Budvar is a real, authentic beer and the USA Budweiser is but a pale, insipid flavourless ghost of a beer (a result of the historical processes such as prohibition, the Second World War etc that largely destroyed America's previously fine brewing tradition - only recently being rebuilt).Up Yours.


 * I don't know why I am writing this (because noone is reading discussions on wikipedia), but I have to comment a bit :). Budweiser simply means "from Budejovice" in german - "from budejovice" is "budějovický" in Czech. Amstel-Bush is only reffering to Budějovice in Budweiser name, nothing else. The name of A-B's beer, "Budweiser", does not have any historical meaning or anything - it simply means "from Budejovice", "Budejovicky". All the same. Yes, Budweiser is now more known for the A-B's brand, but BB is the "original" one. Simply as that. I just think both has reasons to be on the market. That's it. --Have a nice day. Running 00:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, Budweiser simply means "from Budweis" in German. For centuries, this city was built and inhabited by a German speaking population which also founded the brewing tradition there. During 19th century industrialization, Czech workers immigrated to Budweis, while locals emigrated to the US. After 1918, Czechs took over political power, renamed the city to "České Budějovice" (note the emphasis put on Czech), and after 1945, all remaining Germans were expelled. The funny thing is that Czechs try to erase the German tradition while claiming the German brewing tradition anyway, including the name Budweis/er which they reject(ed). Odd. It reminds of Franz Kafka being called a Czech novelist etc. despite him writing in German. -- Matthead Discuß   12:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I may be mistaken but I was always under the impression that the adjective "České" in the Czech name of the town of Budweis was added to avoid confusion caused by the existence of another town called "Moravské Budějovice" or Moravian Budweis. This was caused by translation of these names from German where the Moravian city was called Budwitz. That said, your idea that some stupid nationalist pushed the adjective "České" into the name may be true as well. It appears to me that trying to get exclusive rights to words like "Budweiser", "Münchener" or "Prager" is silly at best...147.231.252.83 (talk) 12:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Original
Deleted the word "original," since as far as I know it is the only Budweiser Budvar beer, thus making "original" superfluous (and perhaps even non-NPOV given the legal dispute between this brewery and Anheuser Busch).

Die Yankee-Brühe aus Übersee besitzt nur den gemeinsamen Namen und kann geschmacklich überhaupt nicht mit dem edlen tschechischen Bier mithalten. Es ist so als ob man einen Ferrari mit einem hölzernen Handwagen vergleichen würde. --195.126.85.141 22:39, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Reference no longer works
^ Budvar to Move Toward Privatization, Associated Press, April 6, 2007. Retrieved: 2007-04-11

This reference links to the URL http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4693460.html which yields a 404/"No such article." I don't know if there is a way to find that article now, or how to remove the reference if there is no way to find the article, so I'm just placing this note here. Wed Jun 11 2008 20:37:38 EDT MixedContent (talk) 00:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I tagged it with .   --DerRichter (talk) 01:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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