Talk:Buddy DeFranco

Discography section
Is it necessary to overlink every last name in this section? Some of the musicians surely will never deserve full articles, as they were not notable. (Mind meal 14:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Greetings Mind meal - Thank you for the internal link to the overlinking, etc. article, I will read it as soon as I finish this post/posting. I agree with your concern abt overlinking, but am not expert enough to know who does or does not deserve a full article. Some of the links on the German page had an article and vice versa. The fact that someone/something does not yet have an article does not mean s/he/it is not notable, but just that no-one has got round to it.
 * And I can assure you that I have come across articles which on people/things that can by no means be considered notable. In this case I just copied and pasted the content of the discography section as is (translating mit into with) relying on other wikipedians to use their criteria. Regards. --Technopat 17:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi there Technopat. First let me thank you for adding the content, as it is a valuable contribution to the article. Personally, I go about linking articles that do not exist only when I know that person to somehow be notable. I do a lot of work on jazz biographies and you tend to come across certain names over and over again. Sometimes these names have no corresponding article. Those are cases in which I consider leaving an open link. However, usually I don't even in those cases. The reason is that once an article reaches a status where it is ready for a peer review, one of the first things that will be brought up is the dead links. It is not a rule, but for some reason it is the way many reviewers feel about it. Some readers also find the red somewhat distracting, though that is more subjective than anything. Just some thoughts. (Mind meal 17:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Thanx for the feedback Mind meal - agree totally with your criteria, esp. the distracting red bit. The more time I spend on wikipedia, the less certain I am of my own criteria and just sort of go with the flow unless it really goes against the grain. My general faith in the wikipedia way of doing things tells me that things eventually get sorted out. By way of example, in an article I started work on a long time ago I only put links to two of the musicians mentioned 'cos I'd already ascertained that the others did not have their own articles. Within 24 hrs someone had red-linked the other dozen or so musicians and left quite an aggresive note telling me to wikify articles so as not to make more work for others. Over time, most of those red links have become blue. Be that as it m., as a sign of good faith, will de-link a few of the red ones at this article - at random, so hopefully no-one will feel offended! Regs. Technopat 18:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I also have had this discussion with others about red links, and some feel they should always be present. It all comes down to preferences I suppose, though the peer review process usually will point it out. Sometimes they may be useful, however. In the case of Victor Sproles, he most certainly was notable as an active sideman on a slew of recordings. In fact, I am considering developing an article or at least a stub for him. Actually, filling in the red links on articles with stubs or start-class articles is a great way to improve the original article that directed readers there in the first place. I don't know if you are like me, but I love creating articles from scratch. Gets the creative juices flowing. Martin Pizzarelli also deserves an article as he is the son of Bucky Pizzarelli and brother to John Pizzarelli, and has often collaborated with both men. None of this likely matters to you, but I thought I'd share what I do know about some of these individuals. Notability for musicians is easier to establish than in most other subjects in a technical sense, as someone can appear only once on an album with a notable musician and therefore become notable themselves. I'm like you, I go with the flow and make changes in my approaches when I learn something new. Thanks again for adding it all. (Mind meal 19:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC))


 * You see my point – Despite my original intention of a random selection, I deliberately left V. Sproles in ‘cos I personally considered he needs to be in, even if he hasn’t yet got an article. Sidemen – many of whom are far better musicians than the stars they back, do tend to get left out. Another seriously lacking article is one for the Metropole Orchestra, although I would imagine that on the Dutch wikipedia there would be summat. Debated with myself abt leaving Martin P. in red but decided against it out of a 'misguided' desire to do an honest random s.! Hope I didn’t put my foot in it too much elsewhere! Regs. Technopat 21:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Clarinet de Buffet
BUDDY is still alive, please let me talk to him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.94.94.103 (talk) 18:46, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Relevant Article
A new article was published on BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) under the Entertainment and Arts section on Buddy DeFranco. The article is named "Jazz clarinet star Buddy DeFranco dies aged 91" and was written on December 28th, 2014. This article seems to have a lot of information about DeFranco's life that could be useful for the biography section of this Wikipedia article. For example, the BBC article states that Buddy was named a "National Endowment for the Arts Jazz Master," which is not included in this article. Anyways, I just think that you could add some more information. Here's the link to the article: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-30615936 Best, Comatmebro  ~Come at me~ 04:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)