Talk:Budweiser (disambiguation)/Archive 1

Comment
See Talk:Budweiser (Anheuser-Busch) for reason for recent page name move. -- Infrogmation 8 July 2005 06:00 (UTC)

City name
If the city is in Germany, why is its name given in Czech? Jaysbro 15:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Budweis was taken over and renamed by Czechs in 1918, and except a German episode from 1939 to 1945, remained under Czech control since. -- Matthead Discuß   13:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see -- it's not part of Germany anymore. Edited the main page to clarify. Jaysbro 15:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * A case can be made that the city was really never part of Germany (since the Munich Agreement was undone by the results of the Second World War). As part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire there were many German speaking inhabitants of the areas in the Empire which bordered Germany.  These settlements were sustained over several hundreds of years, and in many of those areas the German speakers were in the 90 percentile.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.217.231 (talk) 12:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * As a part of Austria resp. the Kingdom of Bohemia, the city of Budweis was part of the Holy Roman Empire and then of the German Confederation (1815-1866). The Munich Agreement of 1938 did not affect the city which was a German language island outside the continuos Sudetenland proper. Budweis was part of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia which was occupied in early 1939. -- Matthead Discuß   13:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

The article says the two companies came up with the name independently. This is not a fact, as at least some evidence quite clearly contradicts it. I'd change it to: which claim to have independently developed the name.--Elmeri B. Suokirahvi 14:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Style of Beer
"Budweiser", like Pilsner, is a style of beer. Anheuser-Busch wasn't the only American brewer to sell beers under that name. Quoting:

Brewery Age June 2004

That Other Budweiser

By Peter V.K. Reid

Then it starts to get complicated. In 1876, in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A., the German immigrant entrepreneurs Carl Conrad and Adolphus Busch decided to emulate the beers of Budweis. Busch brewed it, and Conrad bottled and sold it. In 1878, Conrad trademarked Budweiser, and in 1883, Anheuser-Busch took over the rights. At the time, several American brewers made Budweiser brand beers, including the Frederick Miller Brewing Company. By 1894, the first first Budweiser trademark suits were already roiling American courts. A-B prevailed in its early suits, but the little DuBois Brewing Co. of DuBois, PA, continued making its own Budweiser until 1972, defeating several court challenges by A-B. DuBois was bought by Pittsburgh Brewing Co. in '72, after which the DuBois Budweiser brand was no longer made.

http://www.breweryage.com/pdfs/2004-06czechvar.pdf

So maybe the disambig should make note of that.


 * Bud IS a pilsner both typesJohn Doe or Jane Doe 12:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The really, really big difference is that hundreds, if not thousands, of beers call themselves "Pilsener style beers" but there are only a small handful of beers that use the name "Budweiser," even in the US there were only a handful. (In Germany, the majority of beers have a type called "pils," but none called "budweis.") To say that the use of "pilsener" and "budwesier" as describing a style are similar really is not accurate.

"budweiser" is NOT a style of beer, since golden lagers made in Budweis are Bohemian pilsners as opposed to Bavarian pilsners. There is plenty of recorded evident of Burgherliches Brauhaus Budweis using the appellation "Budweiser" when talking about non-pilsner style lagers they made, for example I have seen advertisments for "Budweiser Porter". The argument is not over a style of beer, but whether or not "budweiser" can be used as an appellation.Velkyal (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Horse
What is the name of the type of horse that is Budweiser's trademark because I think it should be added to the article.24.175.233.200 02:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC) Zolo's Kuina

The horses used in the TV and movie commercials are "Clydesdales" - although, off-screen, they've been known to make use of Percherons as well —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.71.12 (talk) 17:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Use of Budweiser
Google Scholar has 5,280 hits for Budweiser, 2,990 hits for +Budweiser +beer and 1150 for +Budweiser +Anheuser. Uses in connection with Budvar or Ceske, or the German "Bier" number around 100 each.

Also, Budweiser pops up as the name of authors so its safe to say that Budweiser is also established as a German surname. -- Matthead Discuß   11:42, 12 July 2008 (UTC) Almost every bigger city eventually becomes someones surname. It's quite common in Czech and surrounding countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.70.33.55 (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Bernhard Budweiser of Chicago, Illinois, early 20th century inventor
 * S Budweiser, stephan.budweiser@klinik.uni-regensburg.de
 * W Budweiser, Werner Budweiser

Date Corrections
I changed a couple of things in the text:


 * Budvar was founded in 1895 not 1875
 * removed a claim that Budvar was producing a beer in 1865, which would be 30 years before the company was established —Preceding unsigned comment added by Velkyal (talk • contribs) 18:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Adjective… or noun?
The Budweiser is a nominalized adjective: Originally it is budweiser, an adjective like "this is a budweiser guy", but we also use it as a noun in like in "this guy is a Budweiser". --178.11.166.194 (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2013 (UTC)