Talk:Buenos Aires Underground/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: MPJ-DK (talk · contribs) 07:07, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I will be starting the GA review of this article in the next day or so. I usually provide my feedback in sections over a day or two instead of everything at once, but feel free to respond/address any comments even before the review is complete if you want to. Let me know if you have any questions along the way. The GA review page is on my watch list so just post here to keep all conversations in one place.  MPJ  -US 07:07, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Great! Thanks. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 17:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

GA Toolbox
I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.


 * Peer review tool
 * WP:LEAD has too many paragraphs, guideline caps the leads to four paragraphs ideally and this goes beyond that.
 * The lead has several sources in it, there really should not be any sources in the lead, they should be placed in the main body of the text where the fact is first mentioned. Sources in the lead always makes me suspect that the facts mentioned in the lead are not in actual body of the article and they need to be. Nothing should only be in the lead if at all possible.
 * Please decide on either British or American English
 * Examples include: neighbour (B) (American: neighbor), meter (A) (British: metre), metre (B) (American: meter), organise (B) (American: organize), ization (A) (British: isation), isation (B) (American: ization), signalling (B) (American: signaling), travelled (B) (American: traveled), any more (B) (American: anymore), gray (A) (British: grey), grey (B) (American: gray), programme (B) (American: program ).


 * It would be good to avoid galleries in the article, instead try to spread them out through out the article instead.
 * The tool hits on the fact that some of the leads have images in them, I have not seen that in other articles and I am not sure that's appropriate - I have never seen that in any article I have reviewed for GA. Is that a standard for train articles?


 * ✅ US/UK English and gallery. I tried sticking with UK English, but it seems a few things slipped through. Doing a ctrl+f, there are still some US english terms used in references (titles) - could this give you a false-positive? Also removed the gallery. The main lede I'll move on to next, however the images in the other ledes isn't so much that there are images in ledes, but rather that those sections don't contain ledes. Would you advise writing short summaries for those sections or can they be left as they are? SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 03:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixed the images in ledes (and lack thereof) issue. Just need to sort out one last bit of the main lede now and that should be it for this part. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Copyright violations Tool
 * Tool is gone, I have tried to google some of the sentences to see if anything comes up and nothing came up that I can see.
 * The tool is actually there, I checked and nothing came up worth addressing


 * Disambiguation links
 * No issues ✅


 * External links
 * A few issues found when using that tool
 * Two links comes up as dead (listed as red in the tool)
 * One link comes up as probably dead (in blue)


 * Any way I can see which links these are so I can use an archive? I'm not too familiar with these tools. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 03:26, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ - SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 16:08, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Neutral

 * It appears to be on first read through ✅

Stable

 * Not seeing any content disputes etc. ✅

Illustrated / Images

 * File:Le Tellier 1.jpg - Has a tag that's for photos, explicitly stated it's not for drawings, but it's a drawing?
 * Not sure how the metro line drawings constitute "own work"?
 * The rest is looking okay to me.


 * ✅ SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 03:40, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Well Written

 * "Spanish speaking" should be "Spanish-speaking"
 * "mid 1990s" should be "mid-1990s"
 * "remain property of the City" should be "remain the property of the City"
 * "investment plans "deined and funded" by the state" is "deined" supposed to be "designed" or a different word?
 * "The first trams appeared in 1870 and in about 1900 were in a crisis exacerbated by the monopolisation of the companies, a process initiated against the electrification of the system." - not totally clear on what this sentence is trying to say
 * "In this context, the first proposals for the building of an underground system were made, along with requests for government grants: first, in 1886, and several more in 1889, but the Ministry of Interior (Ministerio del Interior, in Spanish) denied the city administration the power to license building in the subsoil of the City." seems like a massive run-on sentence I would advise you to rewrite it.
 * "When in 1894 it was decided to construct the Congress building in its present location" rewrite to something along the way of "In 1894, when it was decided to contruct the..." have the time reference first in the sentence.
 * "Miguel Cané, former Mayor of Buenos Aires (1892–1893), also expressed in 1896 the need to build an underground railway similar to the one in London." again the time reference is in the wrong place. How abou "In 1896 Miguel Cané, former Mayor of Buenos Aires (1892–1893), expressedthe need to build an underground railway similar to the one in London."
 * "170 thousand" should be "170,000" or "170.000" depending on if you're going British or American in your formatting
 * "the company Lacroze Hermanos" should be "the Lacroze Hermanos company"
 * "In 1952 was absorbed" should be "In 1952 CTCBA was absorbed"
 * "Trains originally ran until 01:00, " none of the time indicators here have AM/PM - I am guessing this is because Argentina uses the 24 hour clock where 1 PM is the same as 13:00??
 * "In earlier times the line was planned to run" how about rewording the start to be "Originally the line"?
 * "has come" should be "came"
 * "network begun with" should be "network began with"
 * "second hand" should be "second-hand"
 * The statement "will be retired in 2015" is out of date, can you update it?

- Review complete, putting the article on hold for at 7 days to give you time to work on improvements, if you need more time just let me know.  MPJ  -US 01:46, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I made a couple of small copy edits along the way, hope those are okay with you?
 * Great, thanks! I made the changes you suggested, most had slipped by after having seen the page so many times. As for the 24-hour clock, the UK uses both, but when it comes to timetables and transport, the 24-hour system is generally preferred since it's less ambiguous. Just a few more changes to make, I think a week should be more than enough. Any word on how I can find those deadlinks or is it a case of clicking on them one by one? SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 03:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the reminder on the links. Here are the article titles.  MPJ  -US 05:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Antecedentes, Inicios, Desarrollo de la red y Líneas
 * APUNTES SOBRE LA HISTORIA DEL TRANVÍA EN BUENOS AIRES
 * Interactive Buenos Aires Metro Map

Looks like all issues hasve been addressed so I will read through it o CE more ton see if it is GA level.  MPJ  -US 21:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)


 * - I think the article is there, I am approving for GA. Congratulations