Talk:Buff (video gaming)

Page Move
It was suggested that this article should be renamed Buff (MMORPG terminology). The vote is shown below:


 * I'd support a move to MMORPG terminology. I remember paying for buffs in Star Wars Galaxies Wikibofh 04:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I was the one that mentioned the change, So I guess I should say a word as well. I know that multiple MMORPGs use the terminology Buff, including City of Heroes, Everquest, Anarchy Online. Thre are probably more, but those are the ones that I have the most experience with.--Wahooker 11:58, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 10:54, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

It'd be nice to show the origins of the term, which I'm not really familiar with. --Kerohazel 22:13, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

To my knowledge, the term is not at all exclusive to MMORPG's, but also sees wide usage in other types of games (though most with a significant online component). I propose that the article be renamed to "Buff (computer gaming)". (preceding unsigned comment by Uly (talk • contribs) )


 * Hmm, let me go see if User:Wikibofh or User:Wahooker remember what it used to be named. I don't have any objection, as long as we keep a redirect from MMORPG terminology to (computer gaming)...but I also don't want to move it and find out that that was what it was named in the first place. :) --Syrthiss 04:00, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Found it. It was previously Buff (EverQuest terminology).  Found it in the page move history. .  Wikibofh 17:16, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok, then I have no objections to its move to (computer gaming). At the moment (computer gaming) is just a redirect to here, but we should prolly ask for a page move then. --Syrthiss 20:18, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't have any problem with it being moved to (computer gaming). Probably better than EQ terminology or MMORPG terminology.--WAHooker 16:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


 * The term buff nowadays is not just used in MMORPGs. It should be moved back to (computer gaming) Lightblade 21:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. You can buff comrades in Team Fortress 2, which is an online FPS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radishes (talk • contribs) 16:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Needs cleaning up
I feel that it's confusing that this talks about an MMORPG thing, then suddenly switches to a mostly single player RPG thing. The article needs rework to apply this so that it talks about RPG's in general. The term may be in MMORPG origin, but the concept is obviously not just MMORPG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XenoL-Type (talk • contribs) 18:23, August 2, 2006 Also, why is mob (short for mobile) capitalized throughout this page as if it were an acronym? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.227.254.197 (talk) 08:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Status effect
See the discussion at Talk:Status effect. —TowerDragon 19:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

buff as an opposite of nerf
shouldnt there also be mention of the fact that the term "buff" is also used as the opposite of "nerf" i.e. 'mages need a buff ' or something of the sort? this coming from the fact that nerf links here as a related term. 216.234.58.18 22:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Requested Move
I am proposing a move back to Buff (computer gaming). This term has grown to be used for more than just MMORPGs, although, after several minutes or furious googling, they still make up the most represented genre that the term is used in conjunction with. There is also already precedent, as Nerf (computer gaming) shows. -- Senor k (talk) 14:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅, agreed. Neıl ☎  09:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I've read 'buff' in a Final Fantasy player's guide, and used as a generic RPG terminology even in Pokemon. I propose that the article make clear that it started as a mmorpg term, and include examples of regular RPG usage (such as Haste or Phantom Brave's generic Resistance up)

-Phil —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.166.99.242 (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Buff, debuff, what the heck?
In warcraft 3, in the pop out that describe tha effect of the ability possessed by dryard(a night elven spell caster): 'Abolish Magic', it said: "remove negative buff from friendly units... remove positive buff from enemy units"(the exact word i forgot). This is contrary to what this article try to suggest, that buff is positive and debuff is negative. the description suggest thet buff means status effect and it encompasses all, + or -.

Also note that in W3 context, debuff can mean dispelling a buff-(debuffing). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azar2804 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree - to me, 'debuff' means 'removing a buff'. Tempshill (talk) 21:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Not just computer games
IMO this page should be moved to buff (gaming), as the term has spread to tabletop RPGs. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Citations needed
From mainstream, offline sources. That and it there should be some discussion of the etymology. 92.5.140.104 (talk) 19:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)