Talk:Bufferbloat

Reducing the buffer size does _not_ eliminate the problem
"The problem can be eliminated by simply reducing the buffer size on the network hardware"

That's unfortunately not true, it is not that easy. It is true, that when you have bufferbloat, reducing the buffer size reduces the negative impact, but in practice there is no such thing as the optimal buffer size. The right buffer size always depends on the transmission rate, however usually you have multiple destinations with differing transmission rates, making it rather difficult to find the optimal buffer size. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tddt (talk • contribs) 15:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * This comment is correct. JimGettys (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2011 (UTC)


 * In the worst cases it is that simple. If you have 10 seconds of bufferbloat (I do, at max line rate, for real), then reducing it to 1 second bufferbloat will only make things better. Still bloated, but much better. Marchash (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I have added the caveats discussed here to the statement. ~Kvng (talk) 03:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

History: RFC 970
This is not a new problem, RFC 970 On Packet Switches With Infinite Storage http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc970 describes the issue well.

16:34 EDT 2011-09-14 167.104.7.2 (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

It should be noted that the effective semantics of IPv4 has changed since that RFC was submitted, in a way that (at least formally) invalidates its reasoning: The IP TTL is never decremented by more than one at each router the packet passes, so no matter how long packets are buffered they aren't actually discarded the way it is described there. Does anyone know of a stringent analysis of buffering behavior using hop-count semantics for the TTL field? 192.176.1.95 (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

The term "bufferbloat" was NOT coined by Jim Gettys in 2010 nor was it first detailed in 2009
I can't find sources to corroborate this, but I first encountered the term back in 2002 or 2003. Technical literature first documents the problem as far back as the 1980s, although the term "bufferbloat" was not yet in use.

I'll grant that Gettys may have been the first person to use the term, but that must have been years before 2010.

CmdrSunshine (talk) 18:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sources for this and expanding the article would obviously be welcome. Without those, there is little we can do obviously. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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