Talk:Buick Regal/Archive 1

Quickest production car?
I removed the text


 * The Buick was the quickest production car on the market at the time.

since it seems a little improbable. Faster than Porsches and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and everything else in production worldwide at the time? Faster than a Corvette?

I suspect that some qualifying term is needed here. Fastest US-built car, or something like that. &mdash;Morven 04:08, May 28, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was faster than the vette. It was indeed the fasted mass-production car. This car was amazing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.137.245.199 (talk) 02:04, 4 May 2006


 * Hey buddy, you're not a loser. Wait, that seems a little improbable. No, it's impossible.


 * Anyways, as the last guy said, this car was absolutely amazing. It was in fact the fastest mass-production car outrunning all others at the time. So at Captain Improbability, this car was faster than the Corvette and I have an original GM video from 1987 to back it up. It outran the 87 Callaway Corvette, that went for twice the price of the GN, by a considerable amount. Next time before you come onto Wikipedia with a nonsensical question, check it out for yourself. http://justfuckinggoogleit.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.49.58.113 (talk) 22:58, 18 August 2006

Considering the GN and GNX both had a hefty curb weight 4.7 seconds is very hard to believe. 3,545lbs to be exact with 275hp. This 0-60 makes a little more sense, 5.5 seconds even though I'd says more like 6 seconds. http://home.att.net/~buickGNX/GNX/memorabilia/specs.jpg (SnakeEyesNinja 09:19, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

GM's factory numbers were 5.7 to 60, but those numbers were incorrect, and were only stated so because it was an unwritten rule at GM that no car could be faster than the corvette. The car's actual power figures were anywhere from 300-320 HP with torque figures that often exceeded 400 lb/ft. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.184.175.196 (talk) 20:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Weight, the most important factor, seems to be entirely missing in the article anyway. 193.64.23.189 (talk) 15:23, 27 August 2012 (UTC) Appears that we need some basic understanding of terms. Quick refers to the acceleration of a vehicle mph per hour usually measured by o-60 or 1/4 mile times in seconds, the quicker the car, the less time it takes to reach 60mph from a dead stop, or the amount of time it takes to cover the 1/4 mile, the amount of time to cover the first 60ft of a drag strip ALL from a dead stop. Fast refers to its speed or its top speed. The Buick GNX was indeed the quickest car on the market, but since it's top speed was electronically limited to 200 km/h/124mph, it was far from the FASTEST production car on the market. Car & Driver clocked a 1987 Buick GNX at 4.7 seconds 0-60mph and 1/4 mile of 15.3 seconds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hogboy1976 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Infobox picture
I'm not trying to push my own work here, but I changed the third generation infobox picture to one I took. I figured that it would be preferable to have a picture of the car by itself, rather than one in a parking lot. --Varco 17:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Second Generation infobox picture needs to be changed to a regal limited or similar rather than a black regal with a GN hood and fake GNX wheels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.184.175.196 (talk) 20:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The top infobox picture should be of the fifth gen car since that's the latest one. I'm not sure how to change that, so if someone who can would, that would be great.  Thanks! Bill Heller (talk) 03:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "Vehicle production date is not a factor when determining the quality of an image and its suitability to illustrate the lead infobox." --Sable232 (talk) 20:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

font
we dont need 2 variations of font here... just one —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nytemunkey (talk • contribs).

Designer Series
When the 1982 Buick Regal Grand National was released it was in black/silver/black paint. When the GN was reintroduced in 1984, it was in all black. Because the black/silver/black paint gave the regal a distinguished and aggressive look, it was granted its own option package on the T-Type called the WH1 (Designer Series Package). It included the black/silver/black paint and was the only T-Type to feature a factory installed rear spoiler. It was available on the T-Type between 1984-1986 and had no other option requirements (it could have any color interior, just like a normal T-Type.) Production has assumed to be as follows: 1984 = 1,163 / 1985 = 525 / 1986 = 463. More information can be found on the WH1 Designer Series Registry at http://members.aol.com/wh1regal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.128.167.208 (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2006

Motorized seat belts? No anti-lock brakes on 1992 Custom?
I have three Regals. Two Customs (1991 and 1992) and a GranSport (1995). None have motorized seatbelts. All have anti-lock brakes. Not sure why the entry says otherwise.

== ??? So What's the status on the motorized seat belts comment? I don't know of any 1991-1995 Regals that have them. - JWS (The Above Comment is Mine Also)

Tone Very Inappropriate
This article uses way too many POV words. "Ferocious" competitor? Needs lots of cleanup. 67.175.193.172 01:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Turbocharged Comment
"The only other turbocharged cars available in the U.S. market in 1978 were imports from Saab and the Porsche 930." I find this sentence unnecessary and incorrect as it implies that turbocharged cars are a rarity. Infact didn't Audi, Mercedes and Volvo also have turbocharged cars in the US during the production period of the Grand National? —Preceding unsigned comment added by D3X10N (talk • contribs) 22:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Standard engine and transmission at beginning of second generation (1978)
For 1978, the standard engine for the Regal and the Regal Limited was not the 231 CI (3.8 L) V6 but the 196 CI (3.2 L) V6. Also, the standard transmission on these models was a 3-speed manual. The Regal Sport Coupe had the 231 V6 2-bbl turbocharged engine with automatic transmission standard. According to Buick V6 engine the 196 was also used on 1979 models.

I changed the article text to reflect the above. If anyone knows when automatic transmission became standard on the base model, please edit that in.

68.200.152.125 (talk) 17:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

GNX section
The following blurb, tagged with a cite, I am almost certain is completely made up: "This was created so as to be "Grand National to end all Grand Nationals," as the next model year converted the chassis to front-wheel drive, which Buick engineers admitted would not be able to put down that much power."

While the GNX was designed to go out with a bang, the G-body that the Grand National rode was living on serious borrowed time anyway. The chassis wouldn't continue after the 1987 model year, FF or otherwise. The G-body's raison d'etre was to milk some more sales out of the BOF RWD coupes when the A-body went unitized and FWD for 1982. By 1987 sales were bad enough that GM pulled the plug. Buick's performance aspirations were also on the chopping block, GM wanted to market them as respectable cars, not hot rods. So the idea that Buick engineers were tasked with putting the turbo 3800 to the FWD W-body (they weren't, GM put the kibosh on the turbo program), then declaring that it couldn't be done (The same 3800 V6 would put down similar power in FWD Pontiacs and Buicks for the next 20 years) is totally false. Phcordner (talk) 22:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You're probably right, the last part of that sentence should go away.
 * Now, there were (if I recall) plans to use forced induction on the LeSabre and Electra T-Type cars, but the transaxle at the time couldn't take it. Maybe that's where that idea came from. --Sable232 (talk) 23:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

2011 assembly location?
Unless I missed it, nowhere in the GM press release did it say that the car was actually going to be built in Germany, just that most of the car was German-designed. The previous information about it being built in Oshawa seemed pretty final (that, and the cost of building it in Europe and shipping it here would be quite cost-prohibitive, I'd think). I didn't want to change it back in case someone might know something I don't. --Sable232 (talk) 22:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * From the press release: "Manufacturing location: Russelsheim, Germany". It doesn't mention Oshawa anywhere, nor do any of the articles/posts I've seen so far. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I'd like to see it confirmed by GM before putting it in the infobox. --Vossanova o&lt; 22:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't scroll down that far. Very strange. I'd like to think that it isn't finalized yet. --Sable232 (talk) 04:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Not entirely strange. They'll start building them at the same plant as the Insignia, which has been up and running for a while, until they get whichever North American plants ready.  And I'm sure there are all kinds of reasons why they can't be imported from the Chinese plant. --Vossanova o&lt; 14:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Fifth generation photo
Regarding IFCAR's photo File:2011_Buick_Regal_GS_1_--_2010_DC.jpg - the GS is just a concept and there will be no Buick Regal GS for sale for 2011. It's fine having a photo of it there, but I think the main photo (for both the whole article and the 5th generation infobox) should be of a production 2011 Regal, which has also appeared at auto shows and can be photographed. --Vossanova o&lt; 20:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, but it appears to be the only 5th gen Regal posted on Commons. It should be replaced when the actual models hit the streets. But it would be really great if we had some contributions of Chinese Buick models! Atarivideomusic (talk) 05:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't the lead photo be that of the current generation Regal? Viddea9 (talk) 20:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * No. See WP:CARPIX, item #5. IFCAR (talk) 23:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

GNX400
The recently added section 'GNX400' is claiming 0-60 mph in 3.4 seconds and an 11 speed gearbox. The 3.4 second time is just within the realm of possibility for a mass production car (similar to a Dodge Viper) but an 11-speed gearbox is extremely unlikely.

The only supporting reference is http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f21/2015-buick-regal-gnx400-2014-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x-fq-400-a-156482/ - which is a a forum and forums are automatically disallowed by the guideline WP:USERGENERATED. The forum entry was added by a forum user and that user has been repeatedly called out as someone who made things up.

With very unlikely claims and no reliable reference, I reverted the addition (twice). The section has been reinstated each time, with the last reinstatement calling me a racist against Mexicans for no apparent reason.

Does anybody have a reliable reference? If not, can someone else help remove the 'GNX400' section so that I don't hit the 3RR limit.  Stepho  talk 05:48, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll be happy to. Maybe en.wp really ought to begin demanding registration before editing? I very rarely see ip's contributing anything worthwhile (with a few notable exceptions, but they're so stable so as to be much less anonymous than a handle).  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Pontiac G6 and Saturn Aura?
I thought replacements must come from the same automaker (e.g. a Buick should replace a Buick, not a Pontiac, nor a Saturn). 166.137.191.38 (talk) 00:04, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * In most cases, yes. But in this case they are all divisions of GM and Pontiace and Saturn are now defunct, so the Regal could take over a market segment that was previously provided by another (now defunct) division.  Stepho  talk 00:33, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I guess the Buick LaCrosse replaced the Oldsmobile Intrigue, and the Lucerne (V8 versions) replaced the Aurora. And there are no direct replacements for the Lucerne. The Pontiac G8 V8 was for sure replaced by the Chevy Caprice PPV and eventually the SS. And the V6 was replaced by Buick's current generation Regal GS AWD, as both the G8 and the Regal are four-door sports cars (not to be confused with the 4DSC trademark associated with the Nissan Maxima). 166.137.191.43 (talk) 01:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure I agree that, as an example, a Cadillac model would be a predecessor for a Chevrolet model simply because they both are GM divisions. But the important thing is that none of the edits you are making on size or predecessor/successor have references and they are original research. Until you cite your sources, those edits do not belong on Wikipedia. Bahooka (talk) 04:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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AWD/4WD and liftback/fastback
In modern usage, passenger car systems are almost universally referred to as "all-wheel drive", while the term "four-wheel drive" is reserved for trucks and truck-based SUVs. There is no justification for the constant edit war to describe the car as 4WD.

As for the fastback vs. liftback edit warring - both may be technically correct given the definitions of the terms. Since the trunklid seems to ever-so-slightly flatten out compared to the back glass I'd be inclined to say that "liftback" is the more-accurate descriptor, but that's open for discussion. --Olds 403 (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)