Talk:Bullet Club/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Wugapodes (talk · contribs) 02:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Reviewing. Wugapodes (talk) 02:38, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Checklist
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria 
 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * need to ask about whether the topic should be treated as WP:WAF
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. Has an appropriate reference section:
 * B. Cites reliable sources, where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused (see summary style):
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * Pass or Fail:

Comments

 * 1) "professional wrestling stable" the term stable should not be used in the lead as it is jargon.
 * 2) *Done. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) Same with "promotion", the lead should be for people who don't know anything about professional wrestling and should not have jargon.
 * 4) *Done. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 5) the storyline was tweaked to them coming together "tweaked" is unencyclopedic, and the sentence is slightly confusing.
 * 6) *Done. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 7) The acronym "nWo" needs to be defined, as do all the three letter acronyms in "(like former NJPW stables C.T.U., G.B.H. and nWo)".
 * 8) *Done. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 9) though most of his matches featured outside interference from the rest of the Bullet Club.[36][37][38][39][40][41] WP:OVERCITE and possibly WP:OR as I'm guessing the large number of sources is to support the use of "most".
 * 10) *Removed. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 11) I feel similarly about this sentence: On June 9, Devitt advanced to the finals of the tournament after defeating Kenny Omega in his semifinal match, again with help from Bullet Club.[42][43][44] though it seems less like WP:OR but this whole section could benefit from citation bundling.
 * 12) *Done. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 13) The "Under Prince Devitt's leadership (2013–2014)" section is far too long and could be summarized more. It does not need to be an exhaustive list of every match, just the most notable ones.
 * 14) *Trimmed. Took away every title match that doesn't involve them winning or losing the title. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 15) The same for "Rebirth and championship dominance (2014–present)". The sections are far too large. If you don't think you can remove anything, breaking them up into subsections would help, but as it stands it's just two large intimidating blocks of text. I guess the question to be asking is, what do these events have to do with "bullet club" rather then the individual wrestlers or pairings? I mean, I know nothing about Pro Wrestling so maybe it's more than I know, but I'm not sure how much the events are aspects of the stable rather than aspects of the wrestlers, especially when it lists X wrestler won/defended Y title at Z time. Where the only connection is that X is part of bullet club.
 * 16) *Trimmed. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 17) I don't know what the section "In wrestling" is. The title should be more clear as it doesn't give me an idea of what the content will be.
 * 18) *This section follows our style guide, which can be seen here. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 19) The "In wrestling" section text also suffers from WP:OVERCITE but it's an optional thing to be dealt with as in this instance it doesn't harm readability.
 * Most of the sources are in Japanese, so I'm going to assume good faith and trust they are reliable.
 * I also am unsure of how writing about fiction applies in this case because most (all?) of this seems to be, as the article said, a storyline. I guess it would be similar to coverage of reality shows as the events invariably happened but they were part of storylines. I'll ask a couple people for input on this issue.
 * - as a member of WP:PW, I assure you it's utterly natural for the majority of this article to be about the group's storylines. starship.paint ~  KO   02:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. I looked through a couple other articles and the project's style guide before passing and realized that it was more common than I expected. Good to know for next time, and for other reviewers who ever ask about it. Thanks for the input! Wugapodes (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) I don't know what the section "In wrestling" is. The title should be more clear as it doesn't give me an idea of what the content will be.
 * 2) *This section follows our style guide, which can be seen here. リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  12:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) The "In wrestling" section text also suffers from WP:OVERCITE but it's an optional thing to be dealt with as in this instance it doesn't harm readability.
 * Most of the sources are in Japanese, so I'm going to assume good faith and trust they are reliable.
 * I also am unsure of how writing about fiction applies in this case because most (all?) of this seems to be, as the article said, a storyline. I guess it would be similar to coverage of reality shows as the events invariably happened but they were part of storylines. I'll ask a couple people for input on this issue.
 * - as a member of WP:PW, I assure you it's utterly natural for the majority of this article to be about the group's storylines. starship.paint ~  KO   02:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. I looked through a couple other articles and the project's style guide before passing and realized that it was more common than I expected. Good to know for next time, and for other reviewers who ever ask about it. Thanks for the input! Wugapodes (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I also am unsure of how writing about fiction applies in this case because most (all?) of this seems to be, as the article said, a storyline. I guess it would be similar to coverage of reality shows as the events invariably happened but they were part of storylines. I'll ask a couple people for input on this issue.
 * - as a member of WP:PW, I assure you it's utterly natural for the majority of this article to be about the group's storylines. starship.paint ~  KO   02:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought. I looked through a couple other articles and the project's style guide before passing and realized that it was more common than I expected. Good to know for next time, and for other reviewers who ever ask about it. Thanks for the input! Wugapodes (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * 1) When has it ever been mentioned by WWE that Gallows and Anderson were named "The Club" in reference to their past membership in Bullet Club? To say such is assumptions and hearsay as it's never been implicitly stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.230.136 (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) When has it ever been mentioned by WWE that Gallows and Anderson were named "The Club" in reference to their past membership in Bullet Club? To say such is assumptions and hearsay as it's never been implicitly stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.230.136 (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Results
On Hold for 7 days pending changes with possible extensions depending on progress. Wugapodes (talk) 04:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Listed I think that the biggest hurdle for the article is the number of citations. I'd recommend a thorough look through to see what citations can be bundled, which ones are truly necessary per WP:CITE. Also, while the images are in line with WP:WIAGA, I think that a number of images could be cut down. Further, if you plan to seek FA status, I think the prose will need to be tightened up a lot. While it's clear, concise, and focused, I think that the quality of it could be enhanced. I would recommend a WP:Peer review. Congrats, and happy editing! Wugapodes (talk) 21:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! リボン・サルミネン (Ribbon Salminen)   (LOLTNA)  22:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)