Talk:Bullshit Jobs

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I find it unsatisfying that the entire "Reception" section is based on ONE review from an Establishment newspaper. This certainly gives undue weight to that reviewer's opinions. Qu1j0t3 (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Feel free to build it out. I probably won't get to it for a bit. czar  16:17, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I removed from "Reception" the sentence "A review in Philosophy Now found that Bullshit Jobs combines the worst elements of the industrial and the pre-industrial periods." because it isn't Bullshit Jobs that combines the worst elements of the industrial and the pre-industrial periods, and I can't find any similar opinion in the cited article, so I am not sure what was intended.CTourneur (talk) 20:07, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

French sources
Dumping a bunch here while they're current, in case someone wants to review in the future.


 * https://twitter.com/StudioHansLucas/status/1039792645227393024
 * https://www.wedemain.fr/David-Graeber-Le-capitalisme-multiplie-les-metiers-a-la-con_a3568.html
 * https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/grand-bien-vous-fasse/grand-bien-vous-fasse-12-septembre-2018
 * https://www.francetvinfo.fr/replay-radio/l-interview-eco/les-bullshit-jobs-rendent-les-gens-malheureux-pour-lanthropologue-david-graeber_2912267.html
 * https://www.franceculture.fr/emissions/la-grande-table-2eme-partie/les-jobs-a-la-con-sont-partout-et-cest-a-ca-quon-les-reconnait
 * http://www.nova.fr/37-40-des-gens-sentent-que-leur-metier-na-pas-besoin-dexister
 * https://www.20minutes.fr/economie/2336703-20180914-bullshit-jobs-revenu-universel-gens-accepteront-plus-metier-aucun-sens-estime-david-graeber
 * https://www.nouveau-magazine-litteraire.com/idees/il-y-a-des-jobs-ou-l-essentiel-du-boulot-est-de-pretendre-travailler

czar 22:11, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

German sources

 * https://www.otz.de/startseite/detail/-/specific/Sozialwissenschaftler-und-Aktivist-David-Graeber-ueber-Bullshit-Jobs-318780079

czar 11:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Academic sounding attack
"A 2021 study empirically tested Graeber's claims, finding a low and declining proportion of employees who consider their jobs useless." The problem with a loaded articulation like this is the amount of time and effort it takes to refute it. There are a number of problems with this "study". However it may better to keep this line in the reception section since Graeber's work typically attracts inoperative detractions.
 * I expanded on what the study found and didn't find, which hopefully made the argument more nuanced that just a one-sentence attack. --LatakiaHill (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

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UK "Books of the Year"
I'm working on sourcing a claim in the Graeber biography coming from Penguin Books UK that Bullshit Jobs was "FT BUSINESS BOOK OF THE YEAR 2018, THE TIMES BOOK OF THE YEAR 2018, NEW STATESMAN BOOK OF THE YEAR 2018 and CITY AM BOOK OF THE YEAR 2018" and I'm saving my fact-checking here:


 * Financial Times did not name the book among its critics' picks in 2018 nevertheless as the "book of the year" but Andrew Hill did name the title among his "Best books of 2017: Business" must-reads.
 * The Times does not appear to name the book among 2018's best. It has many "books of the year 2018" articles (e.g., biography/memoir) by genre or category but I don't see where it names Graeber.
 * New Statesman did not name the book among its editorial highlights for 2018 but did outsource it to many individuals, one of whom (John McDonnell) wrote, "Equally explosive, my anarchist friend, David Graeber, yet again has thrown a hand grenade into the political economy debate with his Bullshit Jobs (Allen Lane), a call to strike out for freedom from meaningless work." This isn't a "New Stateman book of the year" but a personal pick.
 * City AM doesn't have any 2018 books of the year article live. I poked around in the Internet Archive for a bit but didn't find it there either.

For now, I'm rating these claims, to the book's chagrin, as "bullshit". Please share additional sources here if you find them. czar 15:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)