Talk:Burns Lake

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 22:35, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Burns Lake, British Columbia → Burns Lake – Name is unique as town name, secondary uses are the eponymous lake and a provincial park and Indian reserve named (for the town, not the lake), target is redirect to current title. Canadian disambiguation rules per CANSTYLE say unique town/city names take no disambiguation Skookum1 (talk) 03:46, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Support. I just created Burns Lake (disambiguation) and looking at the topics listed there, I agree that the village deserves WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status. —seav (talk) 01:05, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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What is the population?
I revised it based on my Stats Can research. See the citation I provided.

I checked the citation previously provided for the higher number, but I was unable to find 3,649 on that web page. http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/nhs-enm/2011/dp-pd/prof/details/page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo1=CSD&Code1=5951022&Data=Count&SearchText=Burns%20Lake&SearchType=Begins&SearchPR=01&A1=All&B1=All&TABID=1

If I am wrong, let's discuss and revise. Peter K Burian (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * News item about the population: Census data shows Burns Lake's population dropped by 8.2 per cent from 2006 to 2011. According to recently released 2011 Census data, Burns Lake's population is 2,029, down from the 2,107 that was reported in 2006, a difference of 78 residents. Outside the village boundary however there has been population growth, with the Regional District of Bulkley Nechako's (RDBN) overall population increasing during the past four years. http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/141640323.html?mobile=true Peter K Burian (talk) 21:34, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Here is a 2016 news item with a 2015 estimate... even lower ''Burns Lake's was 1,829, down 153 people; Hall is trying to get more information on how B.C. Stats arrives at its numbers.

According to an emailed statement from B.C. Stats, they take the most recent federal census figures, from 2011, and looks at various indicators - notably BC Hydro connections and B.C. health client registry numbers in the case of small population communities - to come up with estimates. '' http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/news/local-news/prince-george-is-shrinking-1.2161595#sthash.cx87VdOb.dpuf Peter K Burian (talk) 21:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for updating that population number and reference. That doesn't seem to be overly uncommon for Canadian towns and cities to have population numbers presented that don't match readily available sources. Some people might see these numbers in tourist guides, city highway welcome signs or other unofficial, outdated or erroneous sources. As per WP:CANPOP, as you may be aware, we should be using the Census data and if we use an estimate we can enter it in the body of the article mentioning that it's an estimate or in the infobox with the population estimate parameter. Thanks! Air.light (talk) 22:29, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

The Town website also uses the 3,649 number; probably got it from Wikipedia as so many small web sites do. Of course, it was wrong. Cheers! Peter K Burian (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I've definitely found cases where it seemed like multiple sources pulled erroneous info from Wikipedia. I looked a little more here and I found a few sources including this one that seem to indicate that the 3,649 number is including the local First Nations populations on reserves where as the census data is not. The official census data trumps those other sources for Wikipedia so we're good with this. Air.light (talk) 00:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The population of the village itself is definitely 2,029, while its slightly larger population centre is 2,390. There is a quote error in the ref within the infobox that I am about to correct. Hwy43 (talk) 05:56, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Perhaps we should represent both numbers in the infobox? I'm not sure which parameter would be used for which number. Air.light (talk) 06:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The article is primarily about the village, not the differently configured population centre. Exclude the latter's population from the infobox. Instead, you could mention it in a new Demographics section (after first introducing the population of the village itself, which should receive more weight). Hwy43 (talk) 06:34, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

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