Talk:Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk

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the title isn't a joke about the band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.203.56.50 (talk • contribs)


 * I think no! "Kraftwerk" means "power plant"... --Filzstift 07:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Filzstift is right. But isn't this the episode where somebody says he's going to seeKraftwerk> -Alex H.


 * No, that's the episode with the stolen art from WW2 and the tontine... AnonMoos (talk) 20:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Episode title
According to the audio commentary, the title was an actual mistake by the producers, believing the titles would never be known. 141.6.203.14 13:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe the whole section on correct German grammar is needless and boring in the context on info on a simpsons episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.90.241 (talk) 12:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The big company in East Germany
The quote is "He is from the East and I am from the West. He owned a big company and I owned a big company, now we own a very big company." The implication is that Fritz is from East Germany and Hans is from West Germany, and that their big companies merged upon reunification. Thus, my edit stand.


 * While (private) ownership of large companies by "native" East Germans may have been unlikely in the early 1990s, it was by no means impossible. E.g., several large corporations (Kombinate) were bought out by their (East German) managers. While (most of) the funding for these buy-outs ultimately might have come from the West, East Germans were technically and legally owners of large East German companies. Also, please sign any comments. --ThorstenNY 20:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Factual error in the show?
In the scene where Burns introduced his bees to Smithers, Smithers got bitten by several bees, and while his response was far from casual, it was also inconsistent with his response to bee stings in the episode 22 Short Films About Springfield. In that episode, it was revealed that bee stings cause Smithers to "um... die." One sting caused him to collapse within minutes, so it is presumed that multiple stings would disable him at least for the evening.

Is this a reasonable thing to add to the article? OliveHenry 04:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, Get-a-life, or watch the episode with Homer as Poochie. ;) 84.129.37.141 02:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

This shouldn't be on this article. It wasn't a goof when this episode aired. If the Smithers/bee thing could be called a goof anywhere it'd be on 22 Short Films although given that The Simpsons play fast and loose with continuity all the time I wouldn't call it one. They probably knew that the later episode's bee thing was going against what happened in this ep but just didn't care.


 * I agree. the 22 short films about springfield was made a fair while after this one. by the way, on one of the DVD commentarys Matt Groening says "don't bother writing to us about continuty problems, we just dont care". And might I remind User:84.129.37.141|84.129.37.141 to shut his mouth because the simpsons is the best animated show in the world.
 * You can actually develop bee allergies even after a number of uneventful stings, -I put my foot in a hive when I was younger and got stung a lot with no allergic reaction, but later when I was older I developed an allergy. As per here, "Insect sting allergy can develop at any age and usually manifests after several uneventful stings." -so this isn't a goof or inconsistency for either episode.219.88.68.195 (talk) 23:33, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

German non-error
The capitalisation of V in "Verkaufen" is not incorrect German, because titles always have each word capitalised, except small words such as "the". If it were written not in a title, it would be "verkaufen". Pn57 (talk) 06:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

This is the English rule. There is no difference in capitalization between titles, headlines and "normal" sentences in German. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.145.89.65 (talk) 14:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

What is wrong however is the grammar of the title. A correct translation would be "Burns verkauft das Kraftwerk." So "Verkaufen" and "der" is incorrect. (I am a German native speaker) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.191.16.42 (talk) 02:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I shouldn't argue against a German native speaker, but the capitalisation of Verkaufen is defensible in this case, since it is a noun derived from a verb. As I understand it, the title should be "Burns Verkaufen des Kraftwerkes", roughly "Burns' Selling of the Powerplant". So the original title is wrong in assigning "Kraftwerk" a feminine gender (and consequently, using the feminine genitive article "der"), but not in treating "Verkaufen" as a noun, and as such, capitalised and not conjugated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.117.173.172 (talk) 19:57, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hell, no! First, "der" is not feminine but masculine. Second, the word "Kraftwerk" needs the neuter article, i.e. "das Kraftwerk". Third, the verb "verkaufen" is not be capitalized because it is a verb. "Verkauf" is, indeed, a noun. Fourthly, If you'd like to put it like "Burns' Selling of the Powerplant" you have to write: "Burns Verkauf des Kraftwerks" (neuter, genitive) but you shouldn't because it sounds very artificial. Fifthly, since "Burns verkauft das Kraftwerk" sounds also a bit artificial, I'd recommend to use "Burns verkauft sein Kraftwerk" ("Burns sells his power plant"). It is more coll. and would fit more to the Simpsons. By the way: The German title puts it like an ad: "Kraftwerk zu verkaufen", in English: power plant for sale. -- German Dude 77.5.142.73 (talk) 10:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree that the title is not standard German but do want to point out that der is indeed the feminine definite article in the genitive case, e.g. the book of the woman: "das Buch der Frau".-Ich (talk) 21:22, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

That's great, it's used in a college course...
My Macroeconomics T.A. used an episode of the Simpsons at the University of North Carolina to make a point. Should we mention that in the Wikipedia too? 208.78.65.10 (talk) 01:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Slight error about the 'Hogans Heros' link
Seen the episode a number of times with all the repeats. I'm pretty sure it is 'Horst' who thinks he looks like Sargent Schultz, rather than either of the two who appear in Moes bar and chat with Homer early on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.6.11.20 (talk) 13:21, 25 July 2014 (UTC)