Talk:Burnside, Chicago

Last paragraph: subtle racism?
Hello, I don't like the last paragraph because to me it seems to link Burnside's difficulties directly with its growing African-American population. I tried to rewrite it and I think it's better but maybe the whole paragraph should be scrapped unless someone can find a reliable source to back up what is said. Loves Macs  (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I took a paragraph from the article on Roseland, Chicago as the basis for a new last paragraph. I hope this new paragraph makes it clear that it was factory closures and other economic woes and not shifting demographics that led to Burnside's rising crime rate. I'll leave it up to someone else to judge if the POV template should be removed. Loves  Macs  (talk) 22:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC) I feel that the last paragraph specifically cites 2 facts: (1) Demographically, the area had an increase in a specific racial demographic; and (2) Economic downturns were a primary cause of business closure - most notably large businesses. There is no direct relation that one caused the other or vice versa; the two events just happened to occur at the same time.

I, for one am a former 'white' resident of this community. The article is accurate based on the cumulative effect that all these 3 actions had for the reaction of causing those who built this neighborhood to move elsewhere. However,this was an effect that took 14 years TO culminate. What with the failure of the steel mill, and decreasing jobs in the surrounding area, People found jobs in either the South, or far North West suburbs. Most, tired with long travels and increasing traffic issues, moved out of necessity. Those whom stayed behind where forced to sell their homes for less as in 1972, the area had become designated a "Low Income Housing District" This was due to the fact that families in the surrounding neighborhoods were in the lower 30-percentile of earned income for Cook County, and therefore fair housing values needed to be reflected throughout the area and a whole. As for "White Flight", It con-notates that the European peoples of this area [all of a sudden] just all packed up and moved, which, of course, is not the case. It took near 14 years for the majority of Caucasian peoples to move out for the above facts, and other variables that caused a decline of the original indigenous people to leave.

I lived at 9218 dauphin in the Chatham-burnside neighborhood for many years until 1963 when our family moved to 93rd and stony. The burnside neighborhood was a great place to grow up in. Still have many friends that I talk to that are from there. Yes socio economics did change the complexity of the neighborhood. Let me tell you this, the neighborhood started to change when Richard j Daley and company built subsidized housing in the mid 60s. Scores of housing units were built on vacant lots that played in as kids. The housing units were built by the CHA authority. The people that moved in were subsidized by that org. Yes it was a working-class neighborhood, but we all worked for our homes, and weren't given a thing by uncle Sam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.228.102.141 (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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