Talk:Business conference

Merge?
Conference is a disambiguation page and you can not merge into a disambiguation page. --WikiCats 14:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Wannsee Conference
How is calling the Wannsee Conference a business conference "ludicrous"? What exactly was it? Minsters of various government agencies came together in a boardroom and hammered out agreements of ways to do business. Threatening me with vandalism only invalidates any argument you might have tried to make. How about discussing this like an adult. The fact that it is called a "Conference" alone suggests it was a conference! I think it perfectly illustrates the banality of the Third Reich's criminals and highlights the idea that there is no real thing as "evil". Many learned scholars and historians would agree. What would you offer as a counterpoint? If Wannsee was not a conference, what was it? I agree that it was a criminal undertaking, but that doesn't change the fact it was a business conference.139.48.25.61 (talk) 16:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Reasons for reverting (again):

1. This article is not a list of conferences. If Wannsee is being put forward as an example of a conference it is so atypical as to be misleading.

2. "Business" in the context of this article is clearly intended to have the meaning ascribed to it in the Wikipedia article business, namely "In economics, a business (also called firm or enterprise) is a legally recognized organizational entity existing within an economically free country designed to provide goods and/or services to consumers." Gassing Jews (and others) is a somewhat extreme example of a "service" and the Nazi party does not classify as a "consumer" under any normal interpretation. The fact that Heydrich and co were "doing business" in the vernacular phrase does not make Wannsee an economic forum.

3. "Conference" has a range of meanings which go beyond a business-related gathering. If Wannsee was a "business" conference then it was equally a transport conference, a scientific conference and a political conference, given the range of subjects discussed.

4. It is clear from Wannsee Conference that it was in fact a very short meeting to discuss government policies related to the Final Solution. It is clearly and utterly irrelevant to this article.

andy (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see that an example is irrelevant to the article; as it is, the article is marked as a stub. If you have an example of a more notable conference, fill your boots. So what makes a conference "notable"? Length? Impact? Wannsee is clearly notable as a historical event; I would argue that there is no harm in using it as an example. At the least, a mention in the "see also" bullet points would be warranted, until a better example comes along. Your splintering of the definition of "business conference" would apply to any business conference ever conducted, so it holds no water here, especially given that you haven't defined "business". The problem with all these lame business articles is that they don't provide anything in the way of defintions or true meanings. At least the Wannsee article provides a bit of context and detail that is easy to grasp. That you happen to find the subject material offensive should not be the overriding concern with regards to excluding it. Nor should the fact that it was 90 minutes. The article gives no definition of business conferences according to length, so why should 90 minutes exclude Wannsee? There is no established definition. Unless you're willing to provide one (with a source, of course).


 * I mean - you're talking "business" strictly in the sense of economics, but why? Business takes place in all spheres - including government. I see you edited out my reference to government agencies. I work for a government agency and we have "business conferences" all the time. We don't deal with consumers. Your definitions are way too narrow. For what it is worth, the Germans at the Wannsee Conference were talking about economics - mainly the use of Jews as labour, and the topics of war production did come up. The "consumer" in that case were producers of war materiel, who were consuming labour in their efforts to produce tanks and guns in order to bring about a termination of the war on the Eastern Front.139.48.25.61 (talk) 17:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge with Convention
Given that this article makes no attempt to distinguish between a conference and a convention, perhaps they should be merged.

So if the Wannsee Conference was really a meeting, why is it called a conference? Shouldn't that be explained in the article?139.48.25.61 (talk) 19:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Convention is a disambiguation page - you can't merge with a disambiguation page. See the discussion at the top of this talk page. andy (talk) 20:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This page really should simply redirect to Convention (meeting) as that page is in an advanced state of editing and says the same things as this one.139.48.25.61 (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Potential for separate article
Business conference currently redirects to convention (meeting). The convention page describes events where representatives from different companies meet to discuss issues related to the industry in which they operate. Conference brings to my mind people from the same company meeting at some location external to the business to discuss or receive training in some issue related to that specific business. So whilst I've no intention of doing so, anybody considering resurrecting this article to an independent existence can consider themselves to have my support. xnn (talk) 18:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Any article you create needs to clearly explain how it's different. Otherwise you might face a speedy delete for duplicate article. D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  04:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)