Talk:Business models for open-source software

Requested move
Business models for open source software → Business models for open-source software — like Open-source software — Neustradamus ( ✉  ) 18:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to Talk:List of free and open source software packages. Jafeluv (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That discussion was closed no concensus after 34 days Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Models first, then use examples as illustrations of those models.
The examples should not be a separate section with just a long list. It is important that the examples appear in context. It is better to list different business models and then fill those with examples as illustration to a better understanding of the models.--wmasterj (talk) 02:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Outdated examples
Sun for instance, was aquired by Oracle. Other examples (Linspire's situation has changed) are also outdated. Jontajonta (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Split "Selling services" into "Selling support and training" and "Selling software as a service"
The two are quite different in the way they go about things, so shouldn't be grouped.
 * I agree, i was also planning adding software sever side only. Shaddim (talk) 09:25, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Propose merging "Introduction" with "Challenges"
I don't think the "Introduction" section is strictly necessary (isn't that what the article head is for?), and the text there pretty much leads into "Challenges" anyway. Although "Introduction" needs a lot of touchup, grammatically-speaking, I hesitate to remove it entirely because there appear to be valuable cross-article links and citations in there. --Ernstkm (talk) 10:21, 4 October 2013 (UTC) Ernstkm (talk) 10:21, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What about renaming "Introduction" to "Challenges" (and removing the second one)? Shaddim (talk) 12:25, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest getting rid of the whole challenges section. It's far too opinionated with almost no citations (and I can't think of possible citations either). Just list the different licenses describe them.Rigbypcw (talk) 14:19, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I have a different opinion. While more citations would be nice, the differences and challenges for traditional business in a open-source context are the core aspect of this article. Shaddim (talk) 15:34, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * some articles about challenges and models on open-source business (some might extract citations and refs from it): http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10027093-16.html http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/11-open-source-business-models/5371 http://www.openhealthnews.com/articles/2012/open-source-business-models-more-depth-view http://kellblog.com/2011/06/19/open-source-business-models-revisited/ http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-12-01/open-source-the-model-is-brokenbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/businessofopensource http://www.fitt-for-innovation.eu/index.php?id=fitt_os_business_model http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/07/06/editorial-apple-google-and-the-failure-of-open Shaddim (talk) 15:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * PS: good collection http://www.opensourcestrategies.org/ Shaddim (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I've merged the sections and tagged it for added references.Fgnievinski (talk) 02:05, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion for a new model - "Restricted Trademark Use" (or similar)
Thinking of http://www.moodle.org and the business model that supports it, and I don't think it fits in any of the defined models. The model revolves around a network of commercial partners who are authorised to use the Moodle name and logo (see http://moodle.com/trademarks/ for more detail), and in turn provide a proportion of revenue to the Moodle Trust, which in turn funds core development. Should this be added as a new classification of business model? Is Moodle unique in using this model? Any thoughts appreciated before I attempt to update the actual page - and apologies for any faux pas in this post - first time posting to a Talk page in a long while. Mark.drechsler (talk) 02:50, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Mark, some additional business case could be clearly added if you find a reliable secondary source (press or academic reception) which has seen, named and discussed that business case. regards Shaddim (talk) 22:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Shaddim :) Would http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/cs-moodle be a sufficient reference to the model? Was written by Martin Dougiamas, the founder of Moodle and the person who set up the Moodle Partner business model. If this is sufficient I can add in a proposed edit to the actual page. Thanks for the feedback. Mark.drechsler (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks while this is a well written article it fits not the requirement for a good source: not a secondary source (meaning a journalist writes about it) and conflict of interest (a project unrelated person is required). Some more explanation is given here regards Shaddim (talk) 23:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think this one will suffice -- your thoughts? Thanks. Fgnievinski (talk) 02:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I think yes. After (very long) contemplating I came to the conclusion that this "model" and moodle is long lasting and relevant enough to be added. Shaddim (talk) 14:14, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Funding sources table
Some useful deleted material can be found here. Fgnievinski (talk) 02:38, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

merge
I plan to dump Open-source software into Business models for open-source software. Your thoughts? Fgnievinski (talk) 05:42, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, expand it with the content from there. Hope you work on both sides? some summary on Open-source software ? Shaddim (talk) 14:14, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I got the ball rolling. Fgnievinski (talk) 01:01, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

sponsorship vs. donations
Should sponsorship from companies be treated the same as donations from people? E.g., Apache, OSGeo, SFC, QGIS. Fgnievinski (talk) 01:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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I've just modified the "Funding" section. There was a "how" note, I suppose it was some kind of "Clarification needed" one.

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 * Thanks for your edit. Looks good! I made a few tiny tweaks. zazpot (talk) 23:10, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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No mention of Blender!
Where can we add Blender [] a very useful 3D animation software..

-- YN Desai Discuss  —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Why would we? Does Blender have a unique business model? Is there a reliable source commenting on their business model that we could base this proposed content on? - MrOllie (talk) 14:45, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * @User:MrOllie I am not expert at business model, I was expecting blender to be fitted in one of business model where it would fit. One thing that is unique about it is that community purchased the code in 2002 to make it opensource. Also there is a Blender foundation created. -- YN Desai Discuss 13:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Review of this article by Frank Karlitschek
At FOSDEM right now is going through many of the items in this article, quite useful as a third party expert source to summarise the core concepts and prioritise examples. https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/gpl_and_business/ Nemo 12:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Selling propertiary additives

 * Why is this called "open-source business models" when it's not? 2A02:A311:233E:B200:DE8B:28FF:FE2E:E0EB (talk) 11:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)