Talk:Butia

Pindo Palm
Any Butia palm is know as "Pindo Palm". I've corrected this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.109.125.17 (talk) 21:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

This statement has been bothering me for a while. Pindo has been the word in Argentina & Uruguay for queen palm, Syagrus romanzoffiana, not butia, since at least the 1810s to now (fide Martius, Beccari, any book or website from that region). It is derived from Old Tupi pindóba, meaning 'palm tree'. First use of the name for Butia is 1992 in a book from Florida ('Diseases and disorders of ornamental palms'). A large nursery in Florida started marketing Butia odorata (under the name B. capitata) as 'pindo palms' since around 2000 (they possibly considered the original English name 'American jelly palm' not sexy enough), and the word has become popular in the USA for the wrong species recently (it was added to the Flora of Florida website in 2015). Leo  86.83.56.115 (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

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Etymology
Leaving this here for now; forgot where I got it from & too much own research I think.

In Brazil, a palm of this type is known as a butiá, thus Odoardo Beccari chose this vernacular name as the basis for the subgenus name, which he later, in 1916, raised to a genus. The word butiá is derived from ᵐba atí, likely Old Tupi, meaning 'thorny thing', which likely refers to the spines along the petiole margins of most species. In Guaraní, a closely related language, mba'e ñuatĩ translates as 'thorny thing'. Leo  86.83.56.115 (talk) 17:27, 2 October 2018 (UTC)