Talk:Butt (name)

False citation

 * There is only one citation or reference in this article and even that is concocted .The page it refers to does not carry the quote cited in this article ....the article is about the Bhat

Cheers Intothefire (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal Edits of cited material by anonymous ip 175.119.229.244
See Vandal75.119.229.244 edit on 05:13, 25 December 2008  ,whereby a quote from a verifiable source with citations has been corrupted by it

The original quote that it has corrupted was. It is supposed by many that Musalmans of the Pandit, Kol, But , Aitu , Rishi , Mantu and Ganai Krams are descendents of Brahmans who were forcibly converted to Islam in the fourteenth century. However, in reality these were voluntary Muslims that kept their surnames because Islam does not require one to change their surname after conversion and these were surnames that carried prestige in Kashmir Valley at that time in terms of securing jobs in the foreign ruler's court - because the foreign rulers had identified that families carrying these names tended to be educated to a better level (because the rigid caste system had polarised society by granting these families priority in educational institutes, whilst others were expected to give up or even banned from education in favour of trading). Moreover, whilst in India it is supposed that names like "Pandit" are literally the Sanskrit term for "Hindu" scholar, in Kashmiri society the term was used more broadly as meaning "wise/learned/expert person" or "teacher" by profession (in any subject) or a title for a "talented musician/music teacher" irrespective of religion - so no contradiction was seen in preserving these names within Kashmiri society upon conversion to Islam. Similarly, some Kashmiri Hindus not involved in the education profession, also have surnames usually associated with Muslims elsewhere - because those surnames were more recognised in non-educational sectors historically. Intothefire (talk) 16:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC) Intothefire (talk) 16:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

So revert it. So what? ThuranX (talk) 16:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

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