Talk:Butter sculpture

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I started to wikify this page but most of it is unreferenced and a brief check of Google, including Ross Butler's person website did not verify the information, nor could I find much about it at A Look at Women’s History and Butter Sculpture as Art the reference at the bottom. In fact, some of the information there contradicts the article.

Maybe someone else can do better than I did. Mattisse(talk) 15:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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First butter cow...
This article states the first recorded butter cow to be in 1910 at the Iowa State Fair sponsored by the Beatrice Creamery, yet the Ohio State Fair articles cites their first butter cow from 1903 sponsored by A.T. Shelton & Company, distributors of Sunbury Creamery Butter. Which article is correct? In fact, from the wording of that section it is confusing if it is talking about butter sculpture throughout the United States (as the header would suggest) or specifically in reference to Iowa, as the content and sources seem to suggest. This needs to be clarified. Obviously butter sculpture isn't limit to Iowa, and the section should take a more general approach to the subject.71.190.182.22 (talk) 14:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * In fact, this page states the first butter cow at the Iowa State fair was in 1911 sculpted by J.E. Wallace, and even the Iowa State Fair page gives the date of their first cow a 1911, so something must be off. 71.190.182.22 (talk) 14:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Pamela H. Simpson is an academic historian who is currently writing a book on the history of butter sculpture, the only such expert in existence. In her private collection she has a postcard showing a butter cow from the Iowa State Fair, which she dates to 1904. The picture is reproduced in this article and sourced. The Iowa State Fair website says 1911. I believe Pamela H. Simpson is a more reliable source, per WP:RS, we should go with that date. Also I agree that the entire section seems to be about Iowa, which is out of balance, since many places have butter sculptures, and indeed butter cows came earlier elsewhere. Green Cardamom (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Curiously, I went back and checked the Pamela H. Simpson source, and it now says 1911, not 1904. Either I misread it the first time, or Pamela modified the PDF with new information. Anyway, updated the article and now everything matches up. Green Cardamom (talk) 18:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

What happens to the butter?
Is the butter for large sculptures thrown away afterwards? And if so, doesn't this cause public scandal for wasting perfectly good food? In Germany it would, but then I've never heard of butter sculpting over here, except maybe some small stuff intended to be eaten. -- 77.189.50.179 (talk) 10:34, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No I believe it is cleaned and reused. Green Cardamom (talk) 15:51, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

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