Talk:Buzzcocks/Archive 1

Power Pop
Shouldn't power pop be added in the list of genres? They are in the list of power pop bands. Cire27 11:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The?
A pedantic thought on ''Like many other groups whose name appears to be a plural noun (notably Eurythmics), Buzzcocks' name is frequently rendered incorrectly with a "The" in front it. The group's name is simply Buzzcocks.''

Consider The Beatles.
 * Band: The Beatles
 * Single member: A Beatle
 * Those two members over there: The Beatles over there.

How about Buzzcocks?
 * Band: Buzzcocks
 * Single member: A Buzzcock?
 * Those two members over there: The Buzzcocks over there? Notinasnaid 28 June 2005 08:54 (UTC)

The Beatles aren't in the same league. Think more of "Grateful Dead" and "Pixies", who's names appear to begin with "The", and often people say it that way incorrectly. --66.68.41.20 18:54, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Just because "The" isn't officially in their name doesn't mean it's incorrect to say "the Buzzcocks over there" as was said above. Saying "Buzzcocks are over there" just sounds weird. I don't think there was a need to remove every "the" from before their name in this article.


 * Agreed. Not having any "the"s makes it read funny. The absence of the indefinite article is not absolute. For example: It says "Buzzcocks" on the cover of Singles Going Steady (IRS release), but everywhere else in the packaging, accurate or not, they are indeed referred to as "The Buzzcocks." -- Pas tri cide!   Non-absorbing 18:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Its exactly because "The" isn't officially in their name that it's incorrect to say the Buzzcocks. I don't get the 'sounding funny' argument either. Polish sounds funny to me, even a lot of American English, but...To be honest I think 'Buzzcocks' on its own reads kinda cool, and maybe thats what they were after. Mmm, the things we worry about, eh --Coil00 21:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Like almost every plural band name, the buzzcocks starts with a 'the' without exception, except apparently album art typefaces and wikipedia articles. it follows the same grammatical rules as the beatles.Joeyramoney 00:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Nothing to do with grammatical rules. A name is a name.  I have called them The Buzzcocks, everyone has called them The Buzzcocks, but that is not what they call themselves.  I have conformed the article to give the correct name, as this is an encyclopaedia not an informal chat.  Take a look at buzzcocks.com, their own site.  Not a "The Buzzcocks" to be found (unless it's a quote from another source).KD Tries Again 18:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)KD

Kurt Cobain
I think that Steve Diggle's relationship with Kurt Cobain might want to be touched on. Cobain was influenced by the Buzzcocks, and the Buzzcocks were the supporting group on Cobain's last ever tour. Book is avaliable at Amazon that talks about that and other stuff, incase anyone would like to check it out.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1900924374/002-8574532-6004012?v=glance&n=283155

--CountCrazy007 04:06, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Commercialization of Music
''The Buzzcocks song, "What Do I Get", however, was used in recent times for an ad for Toyota, and is marked as a turning point in public acceptance of the commercialization of music. (A previous touchstone, Nike's use of a John Lennon song, was largely considered crass.)''

Is there a notable source for this? Looks like OR to me. . . Skyraider 13:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

First DIY album
According to Fury's Hour: A (sort-of) Punk-Rock Manifesto by Warren Kinsella, Spiral Scratch was the third punk release in the UK, after The Damned and Sex Pistols, and the first not released on a major label. If this can be verified (which I assume wouldn't be too hard), this seems like it should be mentioned. JonnyChance 20:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

New Wave?
Okay, I'm not a huge fan of Buzzcocks, but I like them quite a lot. I am a fan of New Wave... but are Buzzcocks really New Wave? They surely had pop sensibilities... but they did not go as far as, to name an important band of the New Wave movement which started as punk, Blondie which its sound was distinctively New Wave. I think Power Pop was the appropiate term. Hell, I'd accept Post-Punk... they're closer to it than New Wave and they hold *certain* reminiscences of Post-punk. I'd even accept Pop Punk, which is anachronic... but definitely NOT New Wave. Phibrizoq 05:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * They would certainly have been described as new wave when that was the vogue. I think you are using the term in a much narrower sense than its historical usage (new wave included ALL punk, for instance). Notinasnaid 09:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

All the Spizz'z were certainly New wave and they posses many similarities.--Mrnickcooper (talk) 22:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Flag
Ok, I don't want to edit-war over it; does anyone have a good reason why we should retain the little England flag in the infobox? I removed it per WP:FLAGCRUFT and because as far as I know the Buzzcocks never represented England or identified as English nationalists etc. --John 23:08, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Gorillaz Mention
2D mentioned the Buzzcocks several times as one of his favourite bands in the biography, Rise of the Ogre. True Story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.239.243 (talk) 10:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Images
FYI, there are a bunch of creative commons images available on flickr. Perhaps someone wants to upload them to commons. JACO PLANE  • 2007-12-2 13:27

Former group members
I'm gathering biography information from various sources to get articles up on John Maher and Steve Garvey. If anyone is interested in collaborating on this, let me know. Red Gown (talk) 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Barry Adamson
I see Barry Adamson was added to the list of former members. When was he a member?--Michig (talk) 07:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * When Garth Smith was dumped, Barry Adamson was a short replacement (I suposse Howard Devoto tried to solutionate the problem), and shortly afterwards he was replaced by Steve Garvey, a more full-time member. See: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Buzzcocks Francodamned (talk) 21:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Francodamned

Re-release
I'll add EMI to the list of labels. EMI re-released Another Music in A Different Kitchen and Love Bites. It's the reason they went on that Another Bites tour aswell.--91.180.23.25 (talk) 16:06, 17 May 2009 (UTC)