Talk:Byrds (album)

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Personnel
To my ear there is no Moog or banjo on this album, though I will keep listening. Even if either instrument was played at the sessions, it was clearly not used on the takes selected for the record, or it was mixed out of them. Or am I missing something? I hear electric guitar, acoustic guitar, mandolin, harmonica, electric bass, drums, conga, and tambourine. I am working on a track-by-track but the background vocals are tough. The instruments themselves seem fairly easy to discern.


 * I can't say off hand but I will take a listen to the album over the next day or two. Just to reiterate something I've already posted on the Sweetheart talk page, one of Wikipedia's cardinal rules is NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH. That means that listening yourself to a record to discern which instruments are on it is not good enough for Wikipedia, everything needs to be supported by reliable, third party references. As Wikipedia rather bluntly state in their rules, Wikipedia is not concerned with what's true, only what's verifiable. This can be frustrating sometimes when you know something's right but can't prove it but on the other hand, I think it's a good rule overall.  Kohoutek1138 12:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes I think I wrote the above before I learned about the no original research proviso. I'm sure that rule will preclude a track-by-track listing for this album for now, since unlike Sweetheart Of The Rodeo, about which much has been written, this album is not likely to have verifiable data of this sort. I know Hjort doesn't cover it in nearly as much detail. But I think the rules would support the removal of Moog and banjo, barring something verifying them.  I don't want to remove them until I've had more time to listen, however, because now that they are there I think they should be left if they seem to be correct.  But, my suspicion is that trying to find these instruments on the album will prove a futile effort.


 * I agree with leaving these credits for now. Do you have the Wounded Bird remaster of this album? I wonder if the liner notes for that reissue say anything usful on the subject? I only have the original Elektra CD issue myself. Kohoutek1138 14:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * No I don't have the re-issue but I'll ask a friend who might.Cbben (talk) 16:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * We can always put them back if we get written documentation to the contrary, but there is no banjo or Moog on this album per my extensive listening of late, so I will remove them from the personnel listing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbben (talk • contribs) 05:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

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It's quite simple – "The Byrds' 1960s heyday" sounds a lot more natural than "the 1960s heyday of The Byrds". You can say both "that of Crosby" and "Crosby's", by the way. Esszet (talk) 21:18, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * That it "sounds a lot more natural" might be the weakest argument I've ever heard for changing something like this on Wikipedia. I disagree with you, but at least it now reads "Crosby's" and thus makes grammatical sense at least. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 15:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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