Talk:C. W. A. Scott

Lead
I just took a quick look at the article and while I have not read the article in depth I can tell you that the lead appears to be way too short for an article of this length. You might want to review WP:Lead for more in-depth detail but one of the main points it makes is "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any prominent controversies." which the current lead does not do. I put this hear because I think the article might be a little above "my pay grade" and I think it would benefit from a more experienced editor for the GA and Peer Review, but at first glance I'm pretty sure it won't pass GA with the current lead.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 16:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks (leech44) thats really helpful, I will get on the case and re-write the lead in the way you have suggested, I think that will make the artical much better too cheers Jimmy3d0 (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again (leech44) I have re-written the lead section now and think it is ok, let me know what you think, cheer Jimmy3d0 (talk) 13:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't had much time to look this over but you'll want to stay away from one sentence paragraphs, I reorganized a bit to incorporate the existing ones into other paragraphs. Also you want to stay away from using colloquialisms like wined and dined, and watch for WP:PEACOCK statements, "unbelievable time of 52hr. 33 minutes, they reached the finish line in Melbourne in an incredible 71 hours " unbelievable and incredible are probably Peacock expressions in the lead. The lead now is much better than the couple of sentences prior. Structure may be a concern it probably isn't necessary to have the personal information intermixed such as his second marriage. The indication of the birth of his child as a reason to break a record is good however. Hopefully this helps you out, after all I'm no expert.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (leech44) 22:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Name change of this page
User:Necrothesp, While I greatly appreciate your contribution to the page that I created and have done all the research for about my Great Uncle C.W.A. Scott, I do feel that you might have put this change up for discussion on this discussion page Talk:C.W.A. Scott before actualy going ahead and making the change, the reason I say this is because I did think long and hard about whether the title of his page should be grammatically correct by today’s standards i.e. C. W. A. Scott or be as he was actually known, published and referred to in all Newspapers, newsreels and other documentation such as the vast array of advertising that he put his name C.W.A. Scott to in the 1930's while he was alive, and in fact the very reason why I have done hours and months of research on my great uncle is as well as telling his story, to keep his name alive! I would be very grateful if you would consider whether you have actually made the right decision in changing his name as you have, I do also very much appreciate that you may well have made these changes to help the artical since I have nominated it for GA status but if you check all the links refering to all the published documentation from the 1930's you will see that it is the fact that he was known in his lifetime as C.W.A. Scott, any thoughts you have on this subject and indeed anyone else's thoughts would be very welcome, thanks Jimmy3d0 (talk) 00:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It is standard practice on Wikipedia to put spaces between full stops in article titles, as you will see if you look in the categories. People who use initials are known in many different ways, with and without full stops and spaces, frequently down to the style of the time or the publication, but it is best to be consistent in these things. I am actually a little puzzled by your claim, as contrary to what you say there are actually spaces between the full stops in most of the contemporary sources cited in the article! All in all, I did not feel it was a controversial move. -- Necrothesp (talk) 00:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually yes you are right I was obviously too close to the project to see my error (partly because he was my relative). Can I ask you if you are involved with helping to decide if the artical is at GA standard as I am very keen for that to be put into motion, and have been improving the artical as people have advised, thanks for your help Jimmy3d0 (talk) 00:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably easiest to keep this discussion to this page now if you have any further comments, sorry about that I cant believe I missed that in over a year of researching, thanks for your contibution Jimmy3d0 (talk) 01:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Terrible mess
This article really needs a major rework - there is a massive amount of repetition between sections (for example, the largely unreferenced Biography section contains what appears to be a summary of the rest of the article). The referencing is a mess - an initial inspection has shown two cites out of four checked that do not actually support what is claimed, while the reference formatting itself is terrible - you cannot see what publication refs have come from (pages from Trove are from Australian newspapers, and should state the newspaper where it has come from, Flight is a magazine etc). In addition, the article seems to make far too much use of Scott's own autobiography or of family archives - which aren't secondary sources (and may not pass WP:RS).Nigel Ish (talk) 14:15, 12 October 2019 (UTC)