Talk:C2c

Requested Move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was no consensus for move.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 17:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

C2c → National Express C2C — This is the new name for C2C, all liveries and branding is currently being changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kylesw555 (talk • contribs) 10:20, 21 November 2009
 * (Completing nomination) Tevildo (talk) 15:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The move request is in good faith, but unfortunately not accurate, as the last sentence of the article says: "In June 2009, c2c announced that their trains will change livery, with the addition of the National Express logo." The reference given to the c2c Commuter News June 2009 issue says that:

"...we will be taking the opportunity to introduce the brand name of our owner National Express alongside that of the existing and popular c2c brand. This change to the trains’ livery delivered as part of planned maintenance, will more clearly associate the c2c brand with National Express while ensuring that the c2c identity, which has become well-known by our customers, continues to reflect our proud record of providing the best train service punctuality and reliability in the country and with consistently high standards of customer satisfaction.

The familiar c2c title will continue to be the name of the company and there will be no other changes to our identity, either on trains, at stations and car parks or for other services."

- c2c


 * Emphasis added is mine.


 * I do agree however that more emphasis should be given to the branding/livery change on the trains, and a description of the new white and dark blue company colour scheme partially replacing the magenta, purple and grey one on timetables as well as on the trains, rather than just a single sentence at the bottom of the article. Huangcjz (talk) 12:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Refranchising
A number of references keep on getting removed from the article. National Express will not be running the franchise after 31 May 2011 according to these sources. Paraphrase the sources differently by all means in the spirit of collaboration, but do not repeatedly remove without discussion. MRSC (talk) 21:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

"The government is allowing National Express to run its other franchise, C2C, until the end of the fixed term in May, 2011, but it won't be allowed to re-bid for the franchise at the end of the period, a spokesman at the Department for Transport said. C2C runs commuter routes into London"

From (may require subscription). MRSC (talk) 23:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 4 one external links on C2c. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080515201548/http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/new_timetable_for_c2c_begins_11_december to http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/new_timetable_for_c2c_begins_11_december
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080515201252/http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/morning_and_evening_weekday_peak_schedules_to_return_to_previous_patterns_as_c2c_restores_old_timetable to http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/morning_and_evening_weekday_peak_schedules_to_return_to_previous_patterns_as_c2c_restores_old_timetable
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090717072516/http://www.c2c-online.co.uk:80/tickets_timetables/using_oyster_payg_on_c2c to http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/tickets_timetables/using_oyster_payg_on_c2c
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080705200312/http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/c2c_switches_to_renewable_energy_sources to http://www.c2c-online.co.uk/latest_updates/news/c2c_switches_to_renewable_energy_sources

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Cheers. —cyberbot II  Talk to my owner :Online 09:22, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Link to change.org petition rejected
I've just added a whole section on the new and controversial timetable, but wikipedia won't let me link to the petition on change.org. Any idea how to get round this please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WRSAWB (talk • contribs) 16:59, 30 November 2015
 * You can't. See WP:NOTSOAPBOX and WP:NPOV. See also WP:SPS regarding Twitter and Facebook. We also do not use . -- Red rose64 (talk) 00:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

TOC tables and displaying clock times

 * moved from Talk:MRSC

We have a consistent format for service tables on TOC articles, and your version was not at all detailed. Please keep consistency. Second, regardless of whether you applied a time range, it's still WP:NOTTIMETABLE to display these ranges. Jalen Folf  (talk)  21:52, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You keep making that revert, but the service pattern you attribute to the source is wrong. The table you are adding does not reflect the service pattern that runs now or is in the source. Please stop adding incorrect information and falsely attributing it to a source. Also, number of trains per (peak) hour is fine with WP:NOTTIMETABLE. That says quite clearly counting services an hour is OK. The difference between pre- and post- COVID timetable reduction is notable. The article isn't merely a snapshot of what services run today but a complete history of the company. MRSC (talk) 05:43, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I just had a chance to see your recent edits, and right now, I can say the only issue I had was with the presentation of information related to the change, and not in the change of information itself. I already recognize that you are in the right as a local. except my issue was that displaying the information as simply "All stations" was less detailed than how we had it before. So I'm glad you didn't change it back this time. Jalen Folf   (talk)  08:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)