Talk:CC Sabathia

Surname
What is the origin of his surname? Badagnani (talk) 03:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

CC has said that his family is Creole, from New Orleans. Interestingly, many Creoles can trace their heritage to the Caribbean - mostly French-speaking places like Haiti and Martinique, but also Cuba, which has its own French heritage in the East of the island. That possible Spanish/Afro-Latin background is fascinating because CC seems to have no knowledge of the Latin culture. He said he had never seen a (black) Latin person before becoming a pro baseball player, even though he could very well have the same ancestral background! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.139.146 (talk) 04:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Batting Average under Stats
I'm not sure if showing his batting average/home runs in the statbox is the best idea. Some may take it to mean opponent batting average. Any way we can seperate this? DavidWS (talk) 15:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I am actually in favor of just deleting that part of his statistics box, especially given that Sabathia is (currently) in the AL and is probably going to get fewer than 20 at-bats per season. With some extraordinary exceptions, there's little reason to include hitting statistics in a pitcher's stat line -- for instance, baseball cards don't even bother. Quicksilvre (talk) 17:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Of course, now it gets more complicated with Sabathia's move to the NL, where he will bat fairly regularly. I honestly don't know what to do with that section, so I guess no change. Quicksilvre (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Trade to Milwaukee
So I was wrong in my edit summary, a deal has been reported, but it's still pending formalities. Until those formalities are passed and he's introduced as a Brewer, don't change the article (this same thing happened with Johan Santana in the offseason). Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 23:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Semi-protection? Seems like it should be a done deal--or off--pretty quick. Mackensen (talk) 23:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I can't revert again (I've already done so twice). Anyone else care to? Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Listing him in the Milwaukee Brewers category is like listing Randy Johnson in the Astros category. Half of a dominant season in Houston only to see them eliminated in the division series before he went to Arizona as a free agent. CC doesn't belong in the same section as Robin Yount, Cecil Cooper & Ryan Braun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.46.3 (talk) 08:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Moving article
Can we pick one and stick with it? This is stupid. WikiKingOfMishawaka (talk) 23:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be CC Sabathia (without the periods) as that is what he officially goes by NewYork483 (talk) 23:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. According to this ESPN article:, it says that CC prefers to go without the periods. Ghettoshark (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

2002–2006 season
see ja:C.C.サバシア This article still needs much work 2002–2006 season --Kanesue (talk) 11:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

who cares what he wants? C. C. is accurate
cripes! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.170.201.17 (talk) 06:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:COMMONNAMES Frank Anchor  Talk to me  01:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Lock this until he's formally a Yankee
otherwise it will just go back and forth per usual —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.118.56.110 (talk) 15:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, I have seen this with many other articles. He is not officially a Yankee until he signs the contract and completes other formalities (pass a physical, added to the roster, etc.)  Frank Anchor  Talk to me  17:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Requested at WP:RfPP.  Enigma  message 17:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's already semi-protected, so that keeps most of it out, actually. Full protection was declined.  Enigma  message 18:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Give me a break. It needs to be that official? This guy's a New York Yankee, and we should adjust the page accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.34.33 (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it is now official i heard he has already taken his physical but i can not find a link can someone tell me if this is true —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdemaio4 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The deal's been finalized. He (and possibly Burnett) is (are) being introduced tomorrow. Here's the link to the story. unsigned comment added by Metfan722 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Can we switch the page now? It's been announced that the deal's been finalized. He's being introduced tomorrow. There's no chance in hell he can back out. He's officially a Yankee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metfan722 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

He's a Yankee. He's been introduced so it's final. 'Metfan722

Pitches
I have seen photographic evidence (sorry but it's not CC Licensed) that CC Sabathia also throws a circle change-up, so that should also be added to the list of pitches he throws. I'm not sure what the velocity of the pitch is. Thepainguy (talk) 19:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

--Madchester (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)--Madchester (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)== The deal is official ==

someone edit the box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.0.210 (talk) 13:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * He has not signed the contract yet; he could still sign with any team. ESPN may be reporting like it is a done deal, but it really isn't. Cheers, — Ed   17  (Talk /  Contribs)  14:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, even ESPN is being careful in its reporting - leading of the story with 'reportedly'. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 14:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

This deal is not official yet, no matter how much Yankee fans want it to be. Sorry guys. This article should be appropriately edited until it's 100% official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.6.123 (talk) 03:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Why are people reverting this now? There's all kinds of sources saying that he signed. MLB.com Tan   &#124;   39  20:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed to - not signed. There is a difference. JustSomeRandomGuy32 (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

My understanding from the various news sources is that the deal won't be confimed until next week. I'll semi-protect this page if the speculative edits pick up again. --Madchester (talk)

Postseason Troubles
I am adding a section on CC's postseason performance. It is extremely notable that he is a superb pitcher during the regular season, but in the playoffs he just doesn't seem to have it at all. My previous addition of this information was chopped and some of it removed without explanation. I left a message for the editor who removed it on his talk page but he hasn't gotten back to me so I am re-adding it. Any discussion would be helpful. Thanks! Faethon Ghost (talk) 14:28, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The section is there now, and your edits simply violate NPOV. "Postseason woes", "dishonorable", etc. Cheers, — Ed   17  (Talk /  Contribs)  14:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

How exactly is saying an ERA of 7+ is dishonorable POV? Do you think someone would be honored to have such a ridiculous ERA? Maybe I don't understand NPOV and POV. Can you clean up the paragraph so it is NPOV? Thanks. Faethon Ghost (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't pass judgment on what is honorable or dishonorable. :) — Ed   17  (Talk /  Contribs)  14:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, someone chopped it again. I don't see why pointing out his incredibly high rate of walks (22 in 25 innings) should not be in there. It's also interesting because he has the same number of walks allowed as runs allowed. All in all, in the postseason, CC's WHIP is 2.2 which is astounding for a player of his caliber. It's worth noting. Is it okay if I point out his extrememly high number of walks and point out his WHIP? I mean, the guy in the regular season is a horse, and then in the playoffs he is something different entirely. It's really quite amazing.Faethon Ghost (talk) 15:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Photo
Once he officialy signs with the yankees i think we should change the photo on the page. He is still with the Indians in that picture.I suggest that we put this picture i found of CC wearing a yankees hat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdemaio4 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and then after that see if you can find a photo of how he looked when he gave up 3 runs in one inning in the 2004 All-Star game. It was pretty sweet. Back to back singles and doubles. Good ole CC. Faethon Ghost (talk) 05:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Player Profile
"Sabathia holds a lifetime postseason record of 3 wins and 3 losses in 5 games." ...How can someone have 3 wins and 3 losses in 5 games? Do some games get counted twice or something now that he's a Yankee? Minnesota cold (talk) 03:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Career Home Runs
Under the "Player profile" section, the article states that Sabathia has three career home runs in interleague play as an American League player. However, he hit one of his three home runs in the National League, not in interleague play, as a member of the Milwaukee Brewers on 13 July 2008.

Here is a link to the game summary from that day, which states that Sabathia hit a home run against the Cincinnati Reds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.124.142.48 (talk) 17:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Caption
Seriously, who put `WOW is he fat!`, that is immature and stupid. Does anyone think we shoulkd we delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurassickid97 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Turds
in an encyclopedia?? Can you please remove the last sentence in the Personal section- I tried but didn't see it when I tried to edit it out.Dcrasno (talk) 01:30, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

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Too detailed and needs more sources
The article is too detailed and needs more sources. I have tagged it accordingly. There is too much information, including statistical information; as a result, the article is long and unwieldy. There is a bunch of dense factual material that is mostly or entirely unsourced. SunCrow (talk) 05:30, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

C. C. Sabathia
etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:56, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * J.C. Bradbury Hot Stove Economics: Understanding Baseball's Second Season  2010  p151 "The example of C.C. Sabathia shows the many factors that go into valuing free-agent veterans."
 * Allen LaMountain APPALACHIAN LEAGUE BASEBALL - 2014- p293 "Should everyone start to worry about the struggles of C.C. Sabathia – Doug Rush..."

Under the Grapefruit Tree: The CC Sabathia Story
https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/under-the-grapefruit-tree-the-cc-sabathia-story Not sure where to put this in the article. Mapsax (talk) 02:12, 24 December 2020 (UTC)