Talk:CD Projekt/Archive 1

Someone got confused when creating this article
This article describes CD Projekt and CD Projekt RED as one which is very wrong. CD Projekt is a mother to CD Projekt RED (video game developer), GOG.com and cdp.pl. This should be fixed ASAP.

CD Projekt RED should not redirect here, it should have its own article.

Krystian4842 (talk) 01:33, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm curious to how this got mixed up. If I go to cdprojekt.com/en, it takes me to the CD Projekt Capital Group Website, but it shows an about page for both. CD PROJEKT Capital Group is a group of companies with years of experience in developing new installments of The Witcher and Cyberpunk franchises (CD PROJEKT RED) and worldwide digital distribution of videogames (GOG Ltd.) and CD PROJEKT RED Studio – game development studio, active since 2001. Creators of the world-renowned The Witcher franchise, which follows the adventures of Geralt of Rivia. The first two games in the series have sold over 8 million copies. CD PROJEKT RED is among the most respected RPG videogame developers in the world. The company employs over 230 world-class GFX artists, animators, programmers and designers, both Polish and foreign. Their homepage is http://en.cdprojektred.com/.  Both sites use the same logo, but one is clearly their distributing front and the other is the development studio. I agree, they need to have their own separate pages.Chewbakadog (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The best solution here is to create a new article for CD Projekt RED and move the information about The Witcher from here to there. This article should probably be stub-length. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cronos Dage (talk • contribs) 21:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Reassessment
Came here via the talk page reassessment request; bumping this up to B-class. Some ideas for improvement follow:
 * Wow, great expansion!
 * At this point, should CD Projekt Red be a separate article? It's entirely covered by this article now; if you plan on expanding that one out to be bigger then fine, but it should be merged here or the developer section cut down to be a summary and the content moved to Red.
 * "When Interplay reached financial difficulties, one of CD Projekt's project, the PC port for Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance was cancelled, and team members decided to use the codes to make their own games, which eventually became The Witcher, a video game based on Andrzej Sapkowski's works." - grammar problems ("project", "the codes", and the whole thing is a run-on sentence that should be chopped in half at least.
 * "GOG.com, originally served to help players to find old games, eventually expanded to cover other new triple-A games and independent games" - weird tense issues
 * "The company has a strong will against digital rights management" - strong will?
 * "The team also considered maintaining independent as one of their most important strategies." - independent?
 * "According to Iwiński, he liked video game since he was young" - game?
 * "Iwiński was not qualify for the computer course"
 * "Iwiński, which was only 20 years old at that time"
 * I'm going to cut off the grammar review there- you basically have a grammar error every sentence or two throughout the article, so... you'll want a pretty extensive copyedit pass before submitting to GAN
 * Especially note that you have a lot of present tense when talking about past events. Also a bunch of problems with plurals.
 * The structure and content of the article is great, though, so grammar is really the only thing you need to really fix. -- Pres N  17:01, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the reassessment! I would start fixing these issues very soon. AdrianGamer (talk) 12:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Contradiction?
How can the cracked copies be illegal if no copyright law existed? The given source also does nowhere mention it to be illegal, it sounds very much like original research without the research. --Constructor 07:06, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


 * AdrianGamer (talk) 08:31, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Split into CD Projekt and CD Projekt Red
I feel this article should be split into two - CD Projekt and CD Projekt Red. Most of this article says about game development, which is CD Projekt Red's domain. CD Projekt is its parent, it's not directly involved in making video games.

Related links:
 * Capital Group
 * Core business (divisions)

Debeet (talk) 22:14, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Owner edit war
You are both at 3RR (Technically 4RR for Dissident) right now. Please stop the edit war and discuss here at the article talk page, so we can avoid more drastic remedies like protection or edit war blocks. -- ferret (talk) 20:34, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * All I am disputing is the reliability of the source. Is there no reliability list for financial type sources? ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 22:35, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * This source has long been used in Wikipedia. It is used in an article about Lionsgate (see "Owner"). 4-traders is verified on Facebook. Member of ANACOFI-CIF, association approved by the AMF, under nr. CIF E003893. If you don't understand financial sources, then why do you delete sources? Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 07:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I reverted it because how else am I supposed to know if it's reliable or not if the only proof (before this) was you saying it's widely used and nothing else. The WP:BURDEN was on you to prove it, which I now see has been somewhat established (outside of it being used on Lionsgate and its Facebook verification, why even mention that?). ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 22:05, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Problem with "Trade as" parameter
Going on "WSE: CDR", will result in a HTTP 404 page. I think there is some kind of problem with the "CDR" abbreviation or something. I actually found CDPROJEKT page here, but I was not able to repair the problem. Lone Internaut (talk) 16:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem lied within the template as its link base was outdated. I overhauled the templated and enforced a refresh here. It should work now. { Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 16:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It works great. Thank you, much appreciated. Lone Internaut (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Ping me if you require similar fixes for different pages. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 16:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Uncertainty about my edit
I just made an edit for grammar and clarification, however I'm uncertain if it's technically correct, or just an assumption. I wanted to point this out, just in case. (Probably doesn't matter.)

Original: They expected the title to become popular in Poland, and no retailer would be able to translate the text from English version to Polish.

My edit: They expected the title to become popular in Poland, and felt that no retailer would be able to translate the text from English to Polish.

--BevansDesign1 (talk) 15:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

"Polish copyright law did not exist..."
While I understand that this quote is taken directly from a Eurogamer interview, it's also self0evidently not true. Copyright law had existed in all countries, even in North Korea. What I think it was supposed to mean there is that it was poorly defined, especially in the context of rapid economic and societal changes in Poland in early 90-s. Perhaps someone knowledgeable in lawspeak (or just English) could rephrase it so that it doesn't sound so dubious and misrepresentative? --5.44.170.9 (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

CD Projekt Black?
Is there any information about their other development team, CD Projekt Black, which made the infamous Saints Row 2 PC port? -- 179.183.148.246 (talk) 05:14, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think what you are talking about is the CD Projekt Localisation Centre, which started doing ports in 2008-ish, later became (by rename or merge) Porting House, and has since become part of the GOG operations (which still does porting, but from older games instead of between platforms). The name "CD Projekt Black" is not official as far as I can tell (Michael Watson / IdolNinja, who posted the response linked, has only been with Volition since 2013-ish, so he probably misinterpreted some Volition-internal name for the studio; the box of the game reads "CD Projekt Localisation Centre"; no "CD Projekt Black" appears in official documents). However, there are not sufficient reliable sources for this to appear in the article, it seems. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 11:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Optimus SA
The link Optimus S.A. redirects to this page, but the page doesn't have any information about that company. It was a media company and a PC and cash register manufacturer that was acquired by CDP Investment, parent company of CD Projekt in 2011, via reverse takeover, which was the means by which CDP went on the stock market. Optimus was involved in a tax evasion controversy back in the late 90s. The company chairman Roman Kluska was cleared of all charges in 2003 but by then his company was at the brink of bankruptcy. The media division was acquired by ITI Group, while the remains went to CDP.

--Ca1ek (talk) 12:59, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I agree, see also articles such as Onet.pl that link to Optimus of the time it had nothing to do with CD Projekt. I have mentioned this problem here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMiki55 (talk • contribs) 12:34, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Most valuable games company in Europe and other things
It is recent news that CD Projekt just became the most valuable games company in Europe, beating Ubisoft. Besides reporting the thing in the article, should "Operating income" and "Total assets" numbers (reported in source 1) be added at the infobox? I think it would be good, the thing came to mind watching at the Ubisoft article. Lone Internaut (talk) 03:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC)