Talk:CFNY-FM

Callsign
I added the C Fuck New York as the callsign. I heard that it stood for that somewhere (maybe on the station myself). But I'm pretty sure that it doesn't mean North York... the station never broadcasted from North York.


 * It's fine to note "Fuck New York" as a backronym (a humorous but probably not really true post facto explanation), but we cannot assert that it's the real meaning of the CFNY callsign without a definitive source. Bearcat 23:56, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Per the CRTC's web site, station call signs do not have any meaning in Canada, simply being assigned from the range assigned to Canada by the ITU. It's asinine to include it in the info block when it's a fabrication of the poster. Cerowyn 17:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

CD Compilations
I'm not sure where to put this, but at least one CD was released which seems to be a feature of semi-indy music. One release was "Campus Tour Sampler '96" which I used to have. -- Sy / (talk) 07:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes. There was also "To The Edge and Back" I have a copy around here somewhere... does anyone else remember this? 68.148.29.144 (talk) 05:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Past personality section
I don't really like that section; it's pretty much a large list of redlinks. I think that we need to somehow reorganize it or get rid of it. Thoughts? –Dvandersluis 14:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

This section should be re-organized, but the information is important, especially since the entire article is heavy on the "Dean Blundell" content. "Humble and Fred" the morning show which aired for more than 10 years is not mentioned. Also, I am surprised to see Steve Anthony on the list, I remember him on MuchMusic, if he was part of the crew at one point all this information should be verified and added. Thanks! 68.148.29.144 (talk) 05:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The list should be removed. If any entry is important, it should be sourced and expanded to prose. If it's not important enough to be sourced and expanded into a sentence or a paragraph, then it is certainly not useful to the average reader as a meaningless red link for someone they've never heard of. This is a case of WP:NOT. SlubGlub (talk) 00:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've unlinked all of the personalities in the list who were still redlinks (except for Don Berns and Reiner Schwarz, because they're no-brainer notables for other things in addition to their time with CFNY), but in order to permit possible expansion I've left the list alone for now. I agree that it's not particularly useful as currently formatted — and a radio DJ of purely one-local-station notability doesn't generally merit a Wikipedia article in most instances, either. Bearcat (talk) 20:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced material
The following is unsourced information:

While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 11:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In June 2007, the show had been pulling pranks on Vince Carter in hopes to help the Toronto Raptors win the playoffs. Such pranks included calling his hotel room in Toronto, sending Gay Jeff to offer him a "frontal rub", and calling him in New Jersey.
 * During the National Hockey League playoffs, Blundell, Barr and Shapiro would often play pranks on the team that the Toronto Maple Leafs were facing. As the Leafs have gone three consecutive seasons without a playoff appearance, such pranks have not been possible for a number of years.

Call sign meaning
The claim that The call letters, CFNY, as all call letters for TV and radio broadcast stations has no formal meaning is also a bit odd. Stations can and do choose callsigns based on dictionary words (city, cité, chez...) or initials (CKWS and CHEX as Kingston Whig-Standard and (Peterborough) EXaminer) routinely. The one exception is one class of small repeaters where callsigns may use a sequential number, ie: CH1234, instead of a vanity-plated callsign - but that's the exception, not the rule.
 * Those aren't formal meanings, they're just catchphrases that some (not all) stations use to choose a four-letter acronym that doesn't have any official meaning in, say, the way that "CBC" means Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. And plenty of stations are also given call signs that genuinely don't have any rationale behind them at all, but are simply assigned at random because a station has to have something. For example, CKWS-TV certainly couldn't give its name as "Canada Kingston Whig Standard Television" on a CRTC license application. That's what "has no official meaning" means: the call sign is not a short form abbreviation of the station's "proper name" — the long-form phrase is an informal mnemonic for how the call sign was chosen, but it has no legal standing as an actual name for the station. Bearcat (talk) 23:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Dan Duran?
The link for Dan Duran goes to the bio of a baseball player, not Dan Duran the radio announcer.

I miss the old CFNY - even though it started to go bad as I started listening... -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.104.204 (talk) 00:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the catch. I've fixed it; the radio/TV guy didn't actually have his own article at all until now. Believe me, though, a lot of us miss the old CFNY — but to be fair to the station, the culture has changed in such a way that the old CFNY just couldn't fly anymore; those of us who want that kind of thing are listening to internet or satellite radio, so an FM station just couldn't make money doing it. KEXP-FM in Seattle is a non-commercial station, WOXY in Ohio collapsed and was relaunched on digital radio as a subchannel of a non-commercial station, and on and so forth. That kind of thing just isn't bringing in the money that a major media conglomerate like Corus would need to justify it. Bearcat (talk) 01:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Adrian Entries
If you start typing "Dean Blundell" on Google, Google suggests "Dean Blundell" and "Dean Blundell Podcast", followed by "Dean Blundell Adrian". Those who delete references to Adrian are missing that he is apparently the most searched person related to Dean Blundell on all of Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.248.21.204 (talk) 18:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Please note that content needs to be properly referenced to be present in Wikipedia. It's not enough to say that one will know about Adrian if one listens to the show itself — we require references about Adrian, in sources separate from the show itself and not merely mentioning him in passing. And those seem to be lacking. Bearcat (talk) 19:46, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Lists of names
Lists of names in this article should be sourced in accordance with WP:BLP. As there is no way of constantly maintaining linked articles, this applies to names which have a Wikipedia article as well as those that do not. Any name listed with no verifiable citations should be removed. Refer to WP:NLIST for guidance. Fæ (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits by 174.93.67.189
Edits in the last few days by this user have been nonsense Adrian spamming/trolling. Please be aware and revert when necessary. DigiFluid (talk) 16:11, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposal: re-organize
I've been editing and trying to expand the page for a little while now, and more and more I'm finding that its setup and layout is really not as it should be. Ignoring some of the dodgy writing that I've been trying to improve piecemeal, if you look at the article as a whole it seems to be just a disjointed jamming together of station history, a ton of Dean Blundell, and....everyone else.

I think there's merit and a great deal worth preserving in the article now, but that it could benefit greatly from a simple reorganization by station schedule. What I'm thinking is:

1 - History

2 - International Reach

3 - Schedule
 * 3.1 - Weekday Mornings [Dean Blundell Show as currently, but fold Adwoa into section]
 * 3.2 - Weekday Mid-Days [move Josie's section here]
 * 3.3 - Weekday Afternoon Drive [put Fred stuff here]
 * 3.4 - Weekday Evenings [put Bookie here]
 * 3.5 - Loveline [which currently has no mention in article despite being on 5 days a week]
 * 3.7 - Overnights & Weekend Mornings [Melani here, and expand if possible]
 * 3.7 - Weekend Evenings [Raina here, and expand if possible]
 * 3.8 - Swing Announcers [put Adam and Leake here]

4 - Major contests and events [ie Free Money Month, link to Edgefest page]

5 - Past Hosts

I think this would be a fairly easy reorganization which would go a long way to improving the article, both in making it feel more structured as well as making it feel like less of a "Dean, and then everyone else" sort of page. Thoughts? DigiFluid (talk) 18:45, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

As this article has been flagged for quality rewrite since September, and since it doesn't seem to be a heavily edited article anyway, I'm going to go ahead with my proposal if nobody has any objections before Sunday. I'll start with the restructure before moving into the meat of the writing quality, since that'll probably end up more time-consuming. DigiFluid (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Past Hosts revision
Removed most of this section because a) it was unsightly; and b) it was specifically cited as part of the to-do list for fixing up this page. I've chosen to remove all the names that do not have pages to link to, save for a few who are of recent relevance to the station, as well as a few who DO have articles but make little to no mention of the Edge in their respective articles.

If anyone is looking to restore any/some names, the edit prior to my removal of them was by me, at 17:21, November 8, 2011‎. DigiFluid (talk) 22:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Restructuring largely complete + to do
Okay, after quite a bit of work, I think I'm largely done with restructuring the page and major rewrites. This is not to say that the work is done--not at all. There's still a few things that definitely need doing, but at this point I'm rather pleased with how things are progressing

To-do list: DigiFluid (talk) 20:07, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Citations: Need LOTS of citations still, unfortunately they're rather difficult to come by. I've put a few up; links to the Edge pages are alright but I REALLY don't like linking to that Toronto Mike guy's blog. Besides being kind of a jerk, I just don't like linking to someone's blog as a citation. Help would be appreciated
 * Pictures: All this article has is the station logo and a picture of Bookie, it really needs some more. If anybody has been at any Edge events recently and has some photos of Edge personalities, it would help out a lot if you could upload some that are relevant to the page
 * DBS subsections: The contests/guests/etc subsections of The Dean Blundell Show are still a bit sloppy for my liking, but aside from some grammar-improving rewrites I'm not completely sure what to do with them. Opinions and/or advice would be nice

DBS Split Proposal
The Dean Blundell Show is unquestionably a very important part of the station as it exists today, and I'm not interested in gutting it out of this article. But as the CFNY page stands right now, I feel that the section is over-long and gives too much weight to it vs. the importance of the other station personalities. There's also a lot of information in it that is good, but doesn't fit well into the layout and flow of the article as it exists now.

I'm proposing that a lot of the DBS information on the CFNY page now should survive in its own article where it can be better detailed and expanded upon, rather than how much of it is currently either disjointed or in bullet-point. Further to that, it would vastly improve the CFNY page by better balancing it and reducing the amount of text which is either poorly formatted or else not especially relevant to the station as a whole.

Please discuss. I would love to go forward with this, but consensus is important. DigiFluid (talk) 20:42, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

This article needs a complete re-write, it's badly sourced, does not represent a NPOV and stuffed with trivial information. Once that is done, I'll be amazed if things need to be split out. --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Ha, you should go back and look at how it looked before I started in on it! DigiFluid (talk) 20:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * :-) Yep, it can be hard when you are the only long-term editor on an article - most of my watchlist are neglected articles I pick on various boards. I'll try and give you a bit of help. --Cameron Scott (talk) 21:10, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Digifluid, if you wish to split this out then I suggest that you go ahead, if you think you should not split at this time, then can you please remove the tag? Op47 (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * More recent edits since help has come along have mercifully cut the section down to size, and as such I didn't really think it warranted splitting anymore. I wouldn't have objected if someone else removed it, but I went and did so a couple days ago anyway. DigiFluid (talk) 18:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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Pete & Geets?
Why no mention of the Pete & Geets show?

CFNY's morning show waS ALL Pete & Geets for the first ten years. Then David haydu because their Chief Engineer for many years after that. The guy who started the 0 VU dBm standard for broadcast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:5:80D:0:0:0:71 (talk) 11:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Why Brampton and not Toronto
This station has broadcast from the CN Tower for decades, and it's studios are on the lake in downtown Toronto. Listening to their broadcast, they are very Toronto-centric, with no mention of Brampton in particular. Why is it listed as Brampton and not Toronto? The only claim for location, is their licence. But for unlicensed broadcasters, we list by location, not something that is irrelevant. I just spent 5 minutes trying to find the call-letters (which I forgot) and page, because I wasn't looking under Brampton! Nfitz (talk) 21:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Started in 1953, originally called CFJB?
https://www1.brampton.ca/EN/Arts-Culture-Tourism/Cultural-Heritage/Documents/Heritage_Times_Newsletter_2016.pdf This says that the radio station originally started as "CFJB" by Fenn Job in 1953, he died in a car crash in 1956.

Thanks - RandomEditorAAA (talk) 03:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)