Talk:CFOP method

Quick rewrite
I'm going for a little bit of a reorganise, namely Tomisaac 08:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Condense a quick method summary in to one section (merge the current multiple method-stage sections)
 * Tournaments - there are loads of speedcubing websites, so I'll try and find something that summarises this method's tournament performance.
 * History - I'll try and avoid the inventor's own website, but I think it would be reasonable to use it for non-aggrandising state-of-fact info.

Added history
I added a history section to the article, mostly clarifying that Fridrich was not the sole inventor of the method: she did not come up with F2L. Fridrich is usually given credit for the whole method because she popularized it. During the 1990s her website was one of the few available for cubing methods, so she became associated with the system. I don't think anyone will care to dispute this.

The one thing that is disputable is that, because the speedcubing community no longer recognizes her as the inventor, the term CFOP is now more common than Fridrich in many sources. I don't think the circumstances warrant a move to CFOP yet, especially since a redirect is in place and the lead section says CFOP before it says Fridrich. Specs112  t   c  14:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Changing to CFOP
I would really like the article to be renamed "CFOP method". The Fridrich name is rarely used nowadays and CFOP is slightly more descriptive of the method. &#124; Randomno &#124;  WP 23:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

The Method
The original text made sense to me, mainly (I think) because I am familiar with solving a cube. But when I actually try this method, it fails horribly! It seems the original "4-step" method posted on Wikipedia is missing the vital step of re-orienting the entire cube... in particular the old/solved/top becomes the new 'bottom', and each remaining step is focused on fixing the new 'top' (which is the scrambled 'bottom' from before). ANYWAY, I added an explicit step to flip the entire cube (implicit before), and added some parenthetical comments about the new top/bottom (versus original).

So now (with my recent edit), it is a 5-step method.

I know my edit ain't perfect, but at least it addresses the serious omission (flip the ENTIRE cube), and attempts to describe how the final moves affect things, relative to the start. Hopefully somebody can improve my minor contribution to this article and make it better... Hydradix (talk) 02:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Most people who use that method solve the cross on bottom so they don't have to flip the entire cube around. Judith Sunrise (talk) 18:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Why is "Method" capitalised?
Why is it "CFOP Method" and not "CFOP method"? --Mortense (talk) 21:54, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
Do people in the cubing community call this method out loud “see-fop”, “see eff oh pee”, or something else? Can it be added to the article? 24.207.50.80 (talk) 06:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Both pronunciations exist, though (from what I've heard) "see-fop" seems more prevalent than "see-eff-oh-pee". Judith Sunrise (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

New Graphics
Created new graphics using VisualCube, which were smoother and allowed for a clearer vision of the steps. (Specifically cross) I think these graphics are also more beginner friendly since you can see through the cube, and only show the tiles that are solved; which I think is less confusing. Alexuty07 (talk) 23:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)