Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Peru/Archive 1

WikiProject COVID-19
I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:59, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Peru is in national lockdown since monday 16
Since monday, march 16 and for 15 days, Peru is in national lockdown.

That is not reflected in the maps or the information written in this article.

Here are some links in spanish that can verify this information:


 * https://gestion.pe/peru/politica/coronavirus-en-peru-gobierno-anuncia-cuarentena-obligatorio-por-15-dias-por-coronavirus-noticia/
 * https://mag.elcomercio.pe/respuestas/cuanto-durara-la-cuarentena-por-coronavirus-en-peru-hasta-cuando-durara-el-estado-de-emergencia-nacional-covid-19-nnda-nnlt-noticia/
 * https://elcomercio.pe/lima/sucesos/coronavirus-en-peru-que-se-puede-hacer-y-que-no-ante-la-orden-de-cuarentena-dispuesta-para-evitar-el-covid-19-vicente-zeballos-carlos-moran-nndc-noticia/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by José Ignacio Cabrejos (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)


 * — Thank you for your notice, it may be better handled at the talk page of the article 2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Peru. I am moving it there. Carl Fredrik  talk 13:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Moved from Talk:2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic

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I haven't seen any sources stating that the quarantine was seen as a 'reliev', neither on the ref link (RPP) nor on other local news outlets. Could that be clarified/sourced? I can't add the myself since the page is protected.
 * Also, yesterday the lockdown was extended until mid-April.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 11:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

--- Hi, how can we get a column for number of deaths next to the number of cases?

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2020
Hi, have been editing the numbers daily for this page for the past two weeks now (even though I just created this account, was doing it from my IP address before it became semi-protected) Numbers for March 30 -- 950 cases, 24 deaths. Please give me permission to edit this chart/section so I can update it early Hahahalol123 (talk) 07:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing as already done, confirmed status granted – Thjarkur (talk) 12:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020
Katsuki-Kun (talk) 18:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC) En Peru tenemos actualmente 1595 caso positivos por Covid-19 (Coronvirus).
 * already updated to a larger number. RudolfRed (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Update
In a live conference, the president just stated there is a total of 1 746 confirmed cases, of which 285 are hospitalized, 88 are in ICUs, 799 recovered in self-isolation and 115 were released from health facilities, giving a total of 914 people who have recovered.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 17:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, the question/request I made in a previous section still stands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.6.199.229 (talk) 17:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * In another live conference, he's stated that 1 301 people have recovered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.6.199.229 (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 2 954 total cases, 490 hospitalised, 109 in ICUs.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, perhaps you can make an account so you can help edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hahahalol123 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source? Typically edit requests like this get answered quicker if there is a reliable source with them.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    08:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * These are updates I do as I watch the live presidential address on TV, so I can't give sources outright until news outlets post them. Just saw the 4. 07 one was streamed as well, though, so here's the link 1.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 12:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Page updated through 9 April 2020.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    08:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Update
10 303 total cases, 914 hospitalised, 132 in ICUs and 230 deaths have just been anounced by the president during a live conference. Link here --179.6.199.229 (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. YouTube is not a reliable source. — MRD2014 (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a recorded official press conference with official numbers. The channel that uploaded it is of a trustworthy news outlet. If you don't think that's 'reliable' because it's hosted on Youtube, then I cannot help you. --179.6.199.229 (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request for April 18th 2020
Hi, the numbers for both tables that display the number of cases are in a non-standard format. A comma and a dot (.) are used interchangeably as a thousand separator and this is confusing. I'd like to standardize the numbers to use a comma.

Amalamagama69 (talk) 10:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Background
The article compares COVID-19 to the 2003 SARS event, claiming that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is much lower than SARS (~9%), but that COVID-19 has a much higher transmission rate. The implication is that COVID-19 may kill more people globally than SARS due to the sheer volume of those infected. Three key points should be carefully considered along with this assertion:

1.) As of 4/28/2020, mainstream media reports that COVID-19 tests used to confirm infection and thereby confirm transmission have been in a continuous short supply; and, 2.) To compensate for the lack of available tests, the US Center for Disease Control instructed the use of post-mortem code 702.a be used in generating Cause of Death for any/all individuals thought to have died of COVID-19, requiring no burden of proof even if there were tests in abundant enough supply to test cadavers; and, 3.) SARS infected 8096 people between November 2002 and September 2003 and (774) fatalities were officially recorded as related to the disease, with 19 out of 29 reporting countries having a 0% mortality rate, The United States included.

Request
Just a minor issue, if the number of ICU beds at the start of the article could be updated, as several sources (both news outlets and official pages) indicate more were implemented by the end of April (1 and during the current month 2, 822 ICU beds 3, 1 000 4, 1 002, and it is stated in the infobox within the article itself (source at the bottom of reflist) that the number of patients in ICUs surpasses the 500 ICU rooms stated at the top.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 08:14, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The secret weapon for the account Denimbabel 16:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Change number of ICU beds at the start of the article, from 500 to 1 002 which is the latest published number. Sources are above, both from official reports and news outlets.
 * ✅ --TheImaCow (talk) 04:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Update death data
MINSA has corrected the deaths data. In its report N°111, the data would be:

May 23: Active cases = 64 468 Total deaths = 3371 New deaths = 127

May 24: Active cases = 66 664 Total deaths = 3500 New deaths = 129

May 25: Active cases = 69 401 Total deaths = 3629 New deaths = 129 Alexis Eco (talk) 03:29, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Numbers update
If someone could change the number of cases, from 148 285 to 155 671 1 as of today, May 30th. The details are in the link. --179.6.199.229 (talk) 20:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Mdaniels5757 (talk) 01:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Update
Confirmed cases have risen from 170 039 to 174 884 1. --179.6.199.229 (talk) 04:11, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Mdaniels5757 (talk) 01:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Ventilators
I was wondering if someone could edit the following statement at the start of the article  The engineering and production is supplied by the Peruvian military  to  partly supplied  or something similar, as only a portion of this equipment actually came from the military itself. Here are some dates and sources to give more detail to this issue:
 * The first notice that we have of this issue comes from April 4th (1), and indicates that the president announced the military would start producing ventilators, and that the first ten would be ready for use in ten days (i. e. by April 14th or 15th) (2).
 * On April 9th (2), EsSalud received ten ventilators repaired by the Navy, from a total of 38 that were previously on service at one of EsSalud's hospitals and needed repairs.
 * On April 24th, the Health Ministry received eigth ventilators repaired by the Air Force.
 * On May 16th, the Navy reportedly delivered the first ventilators produced by the military, that had been announced by the president about a month prior.*
 * On May 29th, the Air Force received twelve ventilators as a donation from Germany.
 * On June 4th, the Navy received twelve ventilators, also donated by Germany.
 * On June 18th the Air Force brought five ventilators to Cajamarca to improve healthcare in that region; however, they weren't actually supplied by the military but by the Health Ministry. The Air Force only served as transportation as commercial flights, as you know, are mostly suspended.
 * On June 21, the Health Ministry reportedly received 35 ventilators repaired by the Air Force.*
 * Finally, on June 24th, the president announced the arrival of 400 ventilators from the PRC, to take place on June 30th.

* I hope someone can verify these two news via another source, since I'm not familiar with that portal.

In addition to what I mentioned above, it was reported that the Health Ministry had acquired 35 ventilators between March 18th and March 21th.

To put it short regarding the sources, while the military does/did aid in the supply of ventilators, by repairing already existing ones (which seems to be mostly the case) or by producing their own, the state has received this equipment from other sources as well, either by independent purchases by the healthcare authorities or by donations.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 09:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * ❌ That would not fit in that sentence since it talks about how the peruvian military engineers ventalitors. That is accurate -- there is no one else engineering them. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 17:47, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * "That is accurate -- there is no one else engineering them." < I'm sorry, but that's false as well. 1 2 3 4 5 6 --179.6.199.229 (talk) 09:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: ~ Amkgp  💬  17:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Maps
A map has the caption "Confirmed deaths by COVID-19 per 100,000 inhabitants". If the caption and the map are correct that would have over 10% of the population having died over large areas of Peru, which is clearly wrong, so the data and/or map must be wrong. (I wonder if it should be confirmed cases per million, as of some date.) Lavateraguy (talk) 12:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Ups. Thanks for your observation. It is an error in the map legend.--Alexis Eco (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

So I see the previous issue didn't get a proper answer; nevertheless, this time I'd like to suggest moving the photos from the "Statistics" section to the "Timeline" one, they kind of look out of place there and also, it'd help to better visualise the charts.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 00:47, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✔️. I don't see any pictures in the "Statistics" section, just charts. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 12:51, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I checked and also took a look at the source code, and it seems to be a browser issue (the photos show by the 'New cases' chart on Firefox[ 1 ], then normally in the 'Timeline' section on Chrome).--179.6.199.229 (talk) 08:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Typo
Just one thing, in the statistic section, one of the subtitles says 'Severes cases' instead of 'Severe cases'.--179.6.199.229 (talk) 14:55, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ✔️ P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 15:51, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2020
I must express my gratitude for the work gone into daily maintenance of this page for so long. I've been spoiled. I hope Peru information will be updated soon? Not sure how I can help if assistance is required. DHRice (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 14:55, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Excess deaths
While officially confirmed COVID deaths are 34,000, which already makes Peru one of the worst-hit countries in the world, between March and September 2020 there were as many as 86,700 excess deaths in the country, according to the New York Times. This may be worth mentioning somewhere in the article. --Pesqara (talk) 08:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for comment - cases change metrics
Please take part in discussion here: Project COVID-19, Medical cases charts - change type — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kohraa Mondel (talk • contribs) 23:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Reflist etc
I've noticed there is an issue with the reflist and other templates. Apparently, while editing, someone placed the templates with instead of – and so, we've been left with internal links to the templates rather than with the actual templates on the article, and thus with no reference list. I'm requesting for the templates at the end of the article (reflist, COVID-19 pandemic, portal bar) to be restored.--179.6.195.205 (talk) 02:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a deeper issue than that, unfortunately. There are so many templates being transcluded here that it's maxed out the WP:PEIS for the article. There's about two dozen similar COVID articles listed at Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. I've added a note at the top of the article that gives immediate workarounds, but significant changes will need to be made to the article by those with more technical and/or subject-matter expertise than I have in order to fix this. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 15:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The list of references may not be visible due to an excess of templates, especially in the "Cite web" and "Refn" templates that were hosted in the Daily Reports section. I have reduced the number of templates with a reference containing all the information, now I should display the reference list and portal bar in this article. This is a problem that also occurred in the article in Spanish.--Anthony Escobar (talk) 06:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)