Talk:COVID-19 vaccine

Discussion of a questionable (now retracted) study suggesting "dangers of mRNA vaccines"
Sadly discovered this posted by a relative who doesn't like the vaccine, but it is concerning. Doug Weller  talk 10:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Junk, non-peer-reviewed journal and a rogues' gallery of contributors. Some sane commentary on it here. Bon courage (talk) 10:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * My browser showed me this. Doug Weller  talk 11:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Published by Cureus, a definite red flag. @Bon courage seeing this RSN?  Doug Weller  talk 13:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * MDPI journals already listed at WP:RSP. Myself, I would probably never use this journal for health claims. Bon courage (talk) 13:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How is that MDPI? Anyway, going to RSN now. Doug Weller  talk 14:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * O yes, it's not MDPI. It's Springer Nature (?!). Bon courage (talk) 14:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * same people, same argument, different publisher. Doug Weller  talk 14:57, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Just to cap this off: Cureus (unusually) retracted the article. Bon courage (talk) 13:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I am surprised that a reasonably seasoned editor would have fallen for this bogus report in the first place. BD2412  T 16:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2024
In the end of the section "Adverse Events", after the part with tinnitus, the following references could be added, showing no signs of an increased rate of lasting vestibular damage:

https://doi.org/10.1111/ene.15546 https://doi.org/10.1097/mao.0000000000003275

It could read like this: "Compared to pre-pandemic cohorts, no increased rate of lasting peripheral-vestibular damage has been shown in observational studies [ref 1, 2]." J.Q.G. (talk) 07:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Would need secondary sourcing per WP:MEDRS. Bon courage (talk) 07:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

New study linking covid vaccines to excess deaths in the West
As reported by multiple sources, The Telegraph, GBNews, Global News, citing The BMJ. I don't usually deal with medical topics, so I'm not sure which section this should be added to. Yvan Part (talk) 00:17, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They are burying the lead a bit, but the sources, particularly the Global News and the actually BMJ study, are pointing more to COVID-19 causing large numbers of excess deaths rather than the vaccine causing large numbers of excess deaths. As The Telegraph article says that "across Europe, the US and Australia there had been more than one million excess deaths in 2020" (basically in the first nine months after the pandemic began, and before the vaccine was available at all), and 1.2 million in 2021 (the first full year of the pandemic itself), and 800,000 in 2022 (after a third of the population had been vaccinated). BD2412  T 00:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll hold for now. I admit that I read throught the articles in a hurry. The titles are indeed a bit sensationalistic though it might be worth keeping an eye on the matter in the coming months in case more studies are conducted. Probably not to relate excess deaths to the vaccine but the relation between excess deaths and covid-19. Yvan Part (talk) 16:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)