Talk:CPAC (TV channel)

Current events
Hi, SFont. I had added the current events tag since I had added information relating to how the Senate of Canada is presently considering a motion to televise their proceedings. The motion is before the Senate and has not yet been voted on, so I thought that it would be appropriate to include the tag there; may I re-add the tag? Paradokuso 08:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oops! If I edit without using minor, maybe someone will see this! lol Paradokuso 06:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I am going to re-add the current events tag to this article. There is a motion before the Canadian Senate as we speak to televise the proceedings of the Upper House (likely on CPAC) and, as such, I think that it would be appropriate to keep the tag on this page pending the appropriate decision in the House. Paradokuso 05:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Info box
The current info box is the correct one to use. This box is for a "tv channel" while the other is used for a "tv network", and CPAC is a tv channel, not a tv network. It's not a debate on what looks "nicer" or what doesn't, it's a debate on whether what is the right one to use or not. 72.142.251.81 18:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * CPAC is a network. GreenJoe 19:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * CPAC is not a network, it is a television cable channel. 72.142.251.81 20:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * According to our own article on television network, CPAC is a network. Please assume good faith. --GreenJoe 20:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Translator
Has CPAC ever used a male French-to-English translator? We need something mentioned in the article. GoodDay (talk) 19:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguation
As of August 23, 2010, I am in the process of creating a disambiguation page for the term "CPAC" and moving the content of this page to "Cable Public Affairs Channel". If you Google CPAC you will see that many of the results have nothing to do with the Canadian television station. The Wikipedia entry for the Conservative Political Action Conference currently has a higher Google placement when searching CPAC than the article that is actually entitled CPAC. Andrewman327 (talk) 15:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)andrewman327

Fixing links
I moved the page the proper way and I am in the process of updating links that refer to CPAC. Feel free to give me a hand. Andrewman327 (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)andrewman327

CPAC HD
Is this channel CPAC available in HD on Rogers or Videotron or Bell?

Why is an essential TV channel of government not available in HD in 2014?--96.20.54.51 (talk) 16:17, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 8 November 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 16:35, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

CPAC (TV channel) → Cable Public Affairs Channel – Per, primarily, to WP:MOVE criterion #4 and #5 because this article is confusingly similar to the U.S. Conservative Political Action Conference and per Andrewman327's unopposed earlier recommendation recommending such a move due to "Cable Public Affairs Channel" being (a) broadly consistent with WP:COMMONNAME due to its (b) higher, more precise, and focused Google search results than "CPAC," whereby results are co-mingled with the U.S. political action committee. Secondarily, this naming convention is more natural than the current name, which seems to violate the "Miscellanea" section of WP:ACRONYM because it is causing significant ambiguity. (Friendly tag to due to his involvement in the space.) Doug Mehus (talk) 18:28, 8 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. Iffy★Chat -- 19:21, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: It's not possible for CPAC (TV channel) to be confused with Conservative Political Action Conference (also "CPAC") when the former has additional disambiguation in the form of "(TV channel)". So I can't accept that part of the argument. Then it just boils down to whether "CPAC (TV channel)" or "Cable Public Affairs Channel" is the true WP:COMMONNAME, and I don't think enough evidence has been presented on that question one way or the other. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I take your point about the parenthetical qualifier negating WP:MOVE criterion #4 and #5. As to WP:COMMONNAME, as you and I note, it's probably a coin flip which name is more commonly used. However, see my rationale below in reply to Mrschimpf (Nate). I think the more precise Google search results for the move make a compelling case. Doug Mehus  T · C  02:42, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose Logo and commonplace usage doesn't use the full name; like C-SPAN it's rare to hear the full name, if ever, referred to on the network or any marketing means. One is a full-scale television network, the other is a political conference (with its full title here to spell out exactly what it is), and the confusion for both is around less than one week out of 52 in the year (and in Canada, these two twains never meet simply because it rarely, if ever, simulcasts American television programming, much less this political conference). The DAB takes care of everything nicely as-is and there's no need for any further disambiguation.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 10:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , I always respect your opinions and agree with you about 95% of the time (or better). This is one time where we disagree. C-SPAN doesn't have a dab parenthetical qualifier added to its name, so the acronym makes sense. Adding (TV channel) kind of defeats the purpose of a concise name. So, it's not immediately clear to me why we wouldn't the fuller form of name. In Canada, it regularly uses its full name on-air and press coverage about it, to the extent it exists, does show fairly common usage for both names. "Cable Public Affairs Channel" returns more precise Google search results and Google's algorithms are smart enough to associate this Wikipedia article with either the fuller form of name or the acronym that one would search for. Doug Mehus T · C  19:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Move: Because of his suggestion, its better to move CPAC to Cable Public Affairs Channel. Cheers! Central  Time 301 18:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Light additions to CPAC wikipedia page
- The Cable Public Affairs Channel (French: La Chaîne d'affaires publiques par câble), better known by its acronym CPAC (/ˈsiːpæk/ SEE-pak), is a Canadian specialty channel owned by a consortium consisting of Rogers Communications, Vidéotron, Cogeco, Eastlink, Access Communications and Vecima Networks.
 * What I think should be added (include citations):

- The channel is devoted to coverage of public and government affairs, including carrying a full, uninterrupted feed of proceedings of the House of Commons and Senate of Canada

- CPAC's main purpose is the broadcast of proceedings of the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada.

- CPAC also airs the proceedings of certain Royal Commissions and judicial enquiries, as well as original programming featuring interviews and analysis.


 * Why it should be changed: Vecima Networks own 0.02% of the company.

- The channel broadcast in continued the proceeding of the House of commons and the senate as well.

- Besides the proceeding of the the House of commons and the senate, the network offer as well a programming that included lengthy interviews and analysis of the political landscape.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): and

African C (talk) 15:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Light additions to CPAC wikipedia page
In 1989, the CBC and a consortium of cable television providers made a joint

- In 1988 the CBC and a consortium of cable television providers agreed to create a new entity, the Canadian Parliamentary Channel (CPaC)
 * What I think should be changed :


 * Why it should be changed:

The consortium agreed on creating the new entity in 1988 and they only filed the paper to finalized the creation in 1989.

The rest is mostly grammatical updates to lighten the text.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

African C (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC) A choice between all three feeds are offered on CPAC's free Internet video stream available on the channel's website.


 * What I think should be added (after the paragraph i highlighted):

Today, CPAC still Canada’s only privately-owned, commercial free, not for profit, bilingual licensed television service. The channel's programs are delivered by cable, satellite and wireless distributors to over 10 million homes in Canada and worldwide via 24/7 webcasting available on this website.


 * Why it should be added:

CPAC has lost around 1 millions subscribers due to the decline in cable subscriptions. As well, due to conversation about Canadian networks neutrality, it's important to mention the lack of biases in the information that it's shared.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Non-political programming and On-air staff
Since 2009, CPAC has also had the authority to carry entertainment programming on July 1 in order to cover Canada Day celebrations on Parliament Hill or elsewhere.


 * What I think should be added (after the highlighted text):

Today, CPAC also produces programs featuring interviews and analysis related to political events. These include: PrimeTime Politics hosted by Michael Serapio; l’Essentiel hosted by Esther Bégin; Profile With Michael Serapio; Conversations with Esther Bégin; Outburst hosted by Glenn McInnis and the Today in Politics podcast hosted by Julie Van Dusen.

Thoses changes reflect the diversity of the Non-poltical programming offered by the Network.
 * Why it should be changed:


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

African C (talk) 17:28, 15 June 2023 (UTC) Past and present hosts associated with the channel have included

•	Esther Bégin •	Michael Serapio •	Julie Van Dusen •	Andrew Thomson
 * What I think should be added (after the highlighted text):


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Reply 1-JUL-2023

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Logo update

 * What I think should be changed (include citations):

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=cpac+logo&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image


 * Why it should be changed:

CPAC change their logo in 2020.


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

African C (talk) 18:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * It's not clear from the provided link which logo is to be used. Please advise. Spintendo  22:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Here is the link to the proper logo : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CPAC_logo_black_color.png African C (talk) 13:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Light additions to CPAC wikipedia page
The Cable Public Affairs Channel (French: La Chaîne d'affaires publiques par câble), better known by its acronym CPAC (/ˈsiːpæk/ SEE-pak), is a Canadian specialty channel owned by a consortium consisting of Rogers Communications, Vidéotron, Cogeco, Eastlink and others  The channel is devoted to coverage of public and government affairs, including carrying a full, uninterrupted feed of proceedings of the House of Commons and Senate of Canada , with three audio channels, one untreated feed and, with the assistance of interpreters, one in each of the official languages.
 * What I think should be changed:

Those changes need to reflect the changes in the organization in the past month
 * Why it should be changed:


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Refer to the references box

African C (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

CPAC's main purpose is the broadcast of proceedings of the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada . Other programming includes meetings of The House of Commons and Senate of Canada parliamentary committees, occasional Supreme Court proceedings, political conventions, conferences, committees and coverage of general elections. CPAC also airs the proceedings of certain Royal Commissions and judicial enquiries, as well as original programming featuring interviews and analysis .
 * What I think should be changed:

It should be change to reflect the reality of the broadcasting industry in Canada. CPAC is the only channel that's suppose to broadcast senate proceedings and committees in Canada.
 * Why it should be changed:

Refer to references box African C (talk) 13:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC) A permanent licence was granted to the CBC the next year.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

In 1988  the CBC and a consortium of cable television providers agreed to create a new entity, the Canadian Parliamentary Channel (CPaC) that would carry the proceedings of the House of Commons and committees, along with proceedings of royal commissions, enquiries
 * What I think should be changed:

Even if the motion to create CPAC has been filed in 1989, it was agreed by the members of the consortium in 1988.
 * Why it should be changed:

A choice between all three feeds are offered on CPAC's free Internet video stream available on the channel's website.

'''Today, CPAC still Canada’s only privately-owned, commercial free, not for profit, bilingual licensed television service. The channel's programs are delivered by cable, satellite and wireless distributors to over 10 million homes in Canada and worldwide via 24/7 webcasting available on this website .'''
 * What I think should be added:

Through the year, the company has lost around 1 million cable subscribers through the different shareholders.
 * Why it should be changed:

African C (talk) 14:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):


 * What I think should be changed:

Since 2009, CPAC has also had the authority to carry entertainment programming on July 1 in order to cover Canada Day celebrations on Parliament Hill or elsewhere.[12] '''Today, CPAC also produces programs featuring interviews and analysis related to political events. These include: PrimeTime Politics hosted by Michael Serapio ; l’Essentiel hosted by Esther Bégin ; Profile With Michael Serapio; Conversations with Esther Bégin; Outburst hosted by Glenn McInnis and the Today in Politics podcast hosted by Julie Van Dusen .'''


 * Why it should be changed:

Through out the year, CPAC has improve their show selection. The organization also have new faces to boost the network presence both in francophone and anglophone spaces.
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

African C (talk) 14:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * What I think should be changed:

On air staff

Past and present hosts associated with the channel have included:

Esther Bégin

'''Michael Serapio

Julie Van Dusen

Andrew Thomson

* Why it should be changed: To reflect the new addition to CPAC team. As comform as their website


 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

African C (talk) 14:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Reply 13-JUL-2023
Regards, Spintendo  08:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Most, if not all, of the requested changes already exist in one form or another within the article. This includes the information about the consortium owners, the fact that coverage includes the Senate of Canada, delivery of their programs, and past and present names of on-air staff.
 * 2) In the event that certain on-air staff are omitted, please include the WikiLinks of these individuals so that they may be added to the article. More information about how to add WikiLinks to individual names used in the edit request may be found here.


 * Most of the changes that i added to the document are the one in CAP. Those are not well specify in the document and most of the information aren't recently updates. Please evaluate the references section to compare the content and evaluate the addition to the document. African C (talk) 13:47, 17 July 2023 (UTC)