Talk:CRM114 (program)

Split Article?
I'd suggest splitting the article into one on the spam filtering tool, and another on the Kubrick reference. --Whump 06:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. It would also be a good idea to give a date to the creation of the spam filtering tool so that we know what came first in that long trivia list. If the spam filtering tool was, (as I suspect) created long after the CRM-114 appeared in "Dr Strangelove" then it's absurd to consider that movie invention to be "trivia" compared to the spam filer tool when it is, in a sense the reverse. --AlainV 04:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think CRM114 as relating to the movie is worth an entire article. Instead add a disambig at the top of page pointing to the movie and move all the trivia into the movie page. Ariel. 15:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Isn't the CRM114 (the Kubrick device) the interesting piece of information and the fact that software was named after it the piece of trivia? The trivia section should be moved to the Kubrick article, CRM114 should point to it, and the spam filter information should be deleted in its entirety.  If you are feeling generous, a link to the CRM114 sourceforge page should be added to the E-mail spam article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.5.111.54 (talk • contribs) 01:21, March 9, 2007  (UTC)

But when exactly was that piece fo software written? --AlainV 16:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering that CRM114 (the spam filter) is one of the best spam filters currently written, I don't think the article should be removed. Instead it should be made clear this article is talking about the filter, include a link to the movie, and move the trivia. Ariel. 12:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If it's so good, (and important and notable, one would presume) then why is it so hard to find out when it was created? --AlainV 19:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not really that hard, it was written in 2001, and became more useful/better known at the end of 2002. It was registered with sourceforge 2002-02-21. If you need to know the exact date you can email the author Bill Yerazunis. Ariel. 02:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think a private email would be considered a "reliable source" by Wikipedia standrads. It would be considered original research, and that's forbidden.  What I'd like is something on the Web or in a printed source, so that I (or somebody else) can put it ont the article without having it deleted later.--AlainV 21:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I started writing CRM114 in 1999 but the oldest current code is from 2001 (as can be seen by the copyright notices). Yeah, "1999" is original research, but 2001 is right in the in-line documentation and copyright notice, and therefore independently verifiable by anyone who cares to download the code from Sourceforge.   -- Bill Yerazunis, 20070828  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.203.128.30 (talk) 14:19, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

propose renaming to CRM114 (program)
This article seems to attract content about the Kubrick device. Further, content about the Kubrick device is now in 114 (number). I would like to suggest renaming this article to CRM114 (program) and using the name CRM114 for the Kubrick device. This proposal would also entail creating a dab link at the top for readers who are seeking the article on the program. --Jtir (talk) 19:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)