Talk:CSS (band)

Requested move (2006)

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The result of the proposal was CSS (Cansei de Ser Sexy) → Cansei de Ser Sexy — According to Wikipedia Naming Conventions on music, band and album names, it seems the page should be moved. Unfortunately, there's already a Cansei de Ser Sexy page redirecting to their album — Talk:CSS (Cansei de Ser Sexy) — Rudá 18:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Survey
Rudá 18:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Support - It would be better to follow the Wikipedia Naming Conventions.
 * Support. Kafziel 18:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Support, and change the album to Cansei de Ser Sexy (album). I don't think anyone will object. Daniel Trielli 04:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 2
move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC) Cansei de Ser Sexy → CSS (band) — "CSS" is the band's actual name: it is referred to as such by their label's site and their own site. Their album, on the other hand, is actually called "Cansei de Ser Sexy". Sdalmonte 09:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Why hasn't this happened yet. Sdalmonte is completely right. I do not like changing these things because I fear I will screw something up big time. Otherwise their name is CSS. We don't go around calling KMFDM, "Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid" do we? We don't go around calling ABBA, "Agnetha Fältskog, Björn Ulvaeus, Benny Anderson and Anni-Frid Lyngstad." do we? This could go on, for example REM, OAR, WASP, OMB, KLF, etc. I am positive their are at least thousands more examples like this since the creation of music and inception of acronyms. To further solidify my point, if you download their song from their website, it downloads as "CSS". In conlusion they are not just "better known as CSS." They are CSS, and should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.138.255.129 (talk) 15:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Given this article has already been through the WP:RM process I'm not willing to unilaterally move it, so I've listed this proposal at WP:RM. The proposal makes sense: the official site refers to them as CSS, the majority of the reviews I have seen (e.g. also call the band CSS. Icalanise (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Support the move. My understanding is that CSS has always been the name of the band, but the album name has confused people. Would this be similar to IBM or KFC, where the acronym is the official name? --Mosmof (talk) 00:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose Three letter initialisms are to be avoided. For example, someone above mentioned OMB, that acronym correctly goes to the disambiguation page, as does WASP. "Cansei De Ser Sexy" is their formal name. See, for example, "the members of Cansei de Ser Sexy are as tireless as the Energizer bunny." in a review: Ramanathan, Lavanya (2008) "Last Call for Santa Shtick" The Washington Post 19 December 2008, page C-11; see also, Kurchak, Sarah (2008) "Cansei De Ser Sexy: The End of Innocence" Chart Vol. 19 No. 1, page 12; Diaz, Tals (2008) "Turning Brapanese" Philippine Daily Inquirer 6 September 2008; --Bejnar (talk) 01:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how you concluded that "Cansei De Ser Sexy" is the formal name, when their label and Billboard, the most established charting service in the industry, list them by their acronym. And of the articles you posted, the first one uses "CSS" in the event heading, and the full name is being used to explain the meaning of their name within the item. And it is possible for publications to simply make a mistake, especially in a case as confusing as this. Given the choices, I'd take the label/artist themselves/Billboard over journalists. Mosmof (talk) 01:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Translation
Isn't it "I tired..." or "I got tired..." rather than "I am tired..."? I'm pretty sure that would be "Estou Cansada de Ser Sexy" A Geek Tragedy 16:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's "I tired to be sexy" from what I can tell, but my Portuguese is not perfect. --Apple1976 21:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

"Cansei de ser sexy" literally means "I got tired of being sexy". The frequently proposed translation of "Cansei de ser Sexy" as simply "tired of being sexy" is not bad but it's absolutelly not LITERAL. The LITERAL Portuguese version for "tired of being sexy" is either "cansado de ser sexy" (masculine speaker) or "cansada de ser sexy" (feminine speaker). "Cansei" is a conjugated verbal form in the past tense exclusively for the first person - singular only. In that language the verb itself carries the tense particle and the person in it, unlike the English verbs which need more contextualizing elements. So a word out of context like "eat" could be present ("I eat an apple"), past (I didn't eat the apple), singular, plural ("we eat the apples"), and refer to every person expect for he/she/it ("he eats"). So it's a very diffent grammatical context. However, the "tired of being sexy" translation is very good and could be kept if the "literally" remark was excluded.
 * I am fluent in both Portuguese and English and would like to make a clarification:

vandalism?

 * The band is notorious for their emphasis on style, fashion and coolness (for 'coolness', see 'NME appeal' and ego), rather than musical ambitions.

Is that vandalism? --jeffrey elliot 19:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Nah, more likely an unsourced non-NPOV claim. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HisSpaceResearch (talk • contribs) 21:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

Css Sort of has Neo-Nazi Trappings
Why does the cover to Cansei de Ser Sexy have a stylized C with fangs and something visually similar to Schutzstaffel runes? Difference between using one shock symbol a la Bowie or Manson, and imitating the SS. - MSTCrow 23:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Reading I bit too much into it there i think, regardless it is irrelevant as wikipedia has no control over the cover design Mbthegreat 23:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't want to be mean but I think it's important to remind you that CSS are indeed cool, funny and smart but their work and views are not very "sophisticated". They have a certain intuitive and naive way of creating. I just doubt they imitated a SS symbol as I strongly doubt they know so much about Nazi germany and its symbols. It was just a naive coincidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.221.4.194 (talk) 04:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is similar to the runes, though SS's letters have flat edges, and CSS's are lightnings. But so what? There simply is no other similarity, and even more importantly, no background stupid nazi ideas in the lyrics. Eduardo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.86.155.78 (talk) 21:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

"as I strongly doubt they know so much about Nazi germany and its symbols." Do you think people in Brazil don't have History lessons? Geez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.68.2 (talk) 12:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

'LGBT studies'
I swear if i see this LGBT tag on another discussion page i will scream. WHat on earth do css have to do with lgbt issues i cant find any evidence they're lgbt and if they are then please mention it in the article.

LGBT wikiproject gives us gays a bad name, gives the impression we're trying to claim everything as our own placing our stupid tag on every other page lol. Aveit2007 09:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I can find no evidence for LGBT in the article. It was tagged because it is in the category "LGBT musical groups". Unless there is a reason why, it should be removed. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Aveit2007, I'm curious about your reaction to the banner - could you explain a little?
 * I'd like to point out that the presence of the banner in no way "lays claim to any article. It merely says the article is "within the scope of the project".
 * And how in the world does putting a banner on the talk page of an article give us a bad name?
 * As to this particular article, it was in the Category:LGBT musical groups. If that's incorrect, then the article itself has incorrect information that should be corrected.
 * Thank you for taking the banner off an article that isn't within the scope of the project. I am still courious about your reaction, though, and welcome a response. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  16:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is because Adriano is openly gay. Oreo June 9th 07

There is a difference between an Album and an EP
Put Albums and EPs in their own category or change the name to releases. You do it.

Off the Hook
In the Trivia section it stated:

The song "Off The Hook" is a cover of a little-known song by former UK Big Brother contestant Maxwell Ward.

I think this statement is nonsense and couldnt find a source, if anyone can then put it back in.

Ultra-hyped???
Cansei de Ser Sexy (lit. "Got tired of being sexy" in Portuguese), also known as CSS, is an ultra-hyped Brazilian band from São Paulo. The bit in bold was added by an IP - is that vandalism etc? user:Sevenplusone 22:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps... probably better to classify it as either unsourced or POV. Either way it can be pulled out. Tabercil 00:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Trivia removal
I removed the following trivia from this article:


 * The song "Alala" and video for "Let's Make Love and Listen to Death From Above" have been included preloaded on the Zune multimedia player, released in November 2006.


 * The songs "Alala" and "Off The Hook" are featured in Forza Motorsport 2 and FIFA 08, videogames for the XBOX 360.


 * "Superafim" is, as of June 2007, the only song not to have Lovefoxxx on lead vocals. Instead, former vocalist Clara Ribeiro is on lead vocals.

The first two have been moved to the album pages, where I think they are more relevant as they have to do with songs. the last one is very, very trivial and of very little use and has no citation. If you think this information is necessary in this article, please assimilate them into the article text. The first two can be applied to the album pages (EP's, Singles) where the songs appear. Sorchah 04:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Alcohol and Hot, Hot Sex
we need some "single" articles written for these two. I fixed the links to these songs in this article to direct to the album for the meantime... --travisthurston  +  22:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess the Alcohol page was created not too long ago, I just created the one for Music Is My Hot Hot Sex the other day. However someone commented that it's not a single; see the discusssion page for that song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoamingComedian (talk • contribs) 17:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "Music Is My Hot, Hot Sex" is a single of its own, and their highest-charting one in the US and Canada indeed.

CSS Music Style
I removed the from the music genre box the genres Alternative Rock, Dance-Punk and Post-Punk revival. Just because they don't play these styles of music. Everyone knows that they are an Indie Rock/Electroclash/Synthpop/New Rave band! I don't know about there, but here in Brazil CSS is considered a New Rave band, too!

So, stop editting it, because there's no reason.

Like New Rave makes any sense. I know they're considered New Rave, but they just aren't. They sound so different from that genre. And, just so you know: Indie Rock is a subgenre of Alternative Rock, and how a band like this can't be Dance Punk I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.65.136.117 (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

More vandalism?
The band's official page link at the bottom directs to a fan blog. Should it be removed? Damianesteves (talk) 22:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, looks like I accidentally re-introduced that a few months ago. I've changed it to the record label site, as their official website now seems to redirect to that blog, which says isn't official. SmackEater (talk) 07:58, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 2012

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The result of the proposal was not moved.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

CSS (band) → CSS – While they may not be the most famous band in the world, the band CSS are the only use of "CSS" in which the article title is just CSS and isn't short for something. See JLS for another example. Unreal7 (talk) 18:13, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the band is not the primary meaning of the term "CSS", the web design language has a much better claim to be the primary topic. The fact that the band is only known by its initials (which isn't even true) is neither here nor there. Interplanet Janet, Esquire IANAL 14:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. To most people, "CSS" means cascading style sheets. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. I left a note at Talk:Cascading Style Sheets as the associated article would be affected by the proposed move. The late, lamented RM bot would have done the same, had it still been among us. Favonian (talk) 17:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose They have neither significance nor chronological primacy over the style sheet language. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Cascading style sheets is the primary topic. The current redirect is appropriate.--SGCM (talk)  17:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose what crap -- the band is clearly "Cansei De Ser Sexy", clearly not the primary usage of "CSS". "Confederate States Ship" is much more likely than this band, and that is clearly not primary either. "Cascading Style Sheets" is primary -- 70.50.151.36 (talk) 04:54, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose "Cascading Style Sheets" are a worldwide technology, used by millions of web designers and developers and all web users - i.e. billions - since 1996. No contest for primacy. --Nigelj (talk) 17:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Sorry, but the primary topic seem to be the cascading style sheets. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:14, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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