Talk:Cabinet of Australia

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Image - Rudd Ministry v Howard Cabinet
I have replaced the image of the Howard Cabinet in the article, instead of the Rudd Ministry. While the Rudd photo is more contemporary, it doesn't depict the subject of the article (a Cabinet). Unlike (say) in NSW, at a Federal level the Ministry includes many Ministers who are not in Cabinet, so a full Ministry photo is incorrect in the context of this article.

Other views are welcome - let's discuss here before further changes. Euryalus (talk) 09:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Cabinet minister images
Only 5 remain without an image now - if anyone knows any places where they could look, please do so. Timeshift (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Minister For Ageing
It says Nicola Roxon Is the minister for Health and Ageing. That is incorrect as Justine Elliot is the minister for AgeingWilliam.hall15 (talk) 06:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Both articles are right - Roxon is the senior Minister for both portfolios, and Elliott is her junior Minister with responsibility for Ageing only. Euryalus (talk) 08:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

House Leaders in the Cabinet
The positions of Leader of the House, Leader of the Government in the Senate, Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate, and Manager of Government Business in the Senate are mentioned along with ministries on the Cabinet page in the front matter of daily Hansard publications. Would anyone object if I add these to the article? -Rrius (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I should have mentioned more clearly that the holders of those legislative offices hold cabinet positions, and the leadership positions are listed with them. This is analogous to Shadow Cabinet of Australia and Cabinet of the United Kingdom. In the latter, the leaders in each house hold another office, Lord President of the Council or Lord Privy Seal, that puts them in Cabinet, and the house leadership is listed with it. -Rrius (talk) 02:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Location
I (and I assume most others) assumed that cabinet meets in Canberra, however I have read the former Prime Minister Keating state that Cabinet meets in Sydney (Philip St I recall). I am not sure if he was referring only to his cabinet or perhaps Howard's. If any one knows the location could they please add the information to the article.

Thank you. 203.214.97.198 (talk) 15:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The Cabinet can meet anywhere. Rudd recently held a Cabinet meeting in Newcastle, and no doubt they've also been held in the Phillip St building. But the usual meeting place is in the Cabinet Room in Parliament House, Canberra. I'm not sure this would fit anywhere in the article, as it is not a function or defining characteristic of the Cabinet. Any other views? Euryalus (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed with Euryalus. Not noteable. Timeshift (talk) 01:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

House/Senate membership
What requirements are there for cabinet membership? Nowhere in this article is it stated that cabinet members must belong to the House of Representatives or the Senate. I know in Canada and the UK all or almost all cabinet members come from the lower house although unlike the UK and Canada, Australia's upper house is elected. I also note that about a third of the current cabinet are senators. Is this a common ratio?--Lairor (talk) 19:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no rule on senators. About a third of parliamentarians are Senators (in accordance with Section 24) and it is not surprising that this ratio might apply to cabinet.--Grahame (talk) 07:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I know this question is years old, but this was my first question, too, after seeing a Senator in the current cabinet. Perhaps, it should be made more clear what the requirements are for cabinet membership.  Maybe even just a single-sentence mention that a politician from either house is eligible for memembership in the cabinet. --Criticalthinker (talk) 16:17, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

New Cabinet
Now that JG has officially released her Cabinet for the next three years, should we go about re-hauling this or should we wait until they're officially sworn in on Monday/Tuesday? DanEdmonds (talk) 04:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we should wait. The article should reflect what is, not what will be. -Rrius (talk) 06:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

The new Cabinet Titles are incorrect, a lot of them are the wrong titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.7.63.177 (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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Old and New Minister
Akuindo (talk) 15:50, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

2013 Abbott's First Ministry
Hi all, I have this link for the new ministry: http://www.tonyabbott.com.au/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=GSBK9YwgcQs%3d&tabid=86 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.130.37.85 (talk) 00:55, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Vitally relevant Const. status; likeness to PM
Just edited the information regarding the status of Cabinet in the Constitution - it doesn't have any - to add a couple of words linking this Convention with the lack of Constitutional status of the Prime Minister. It is my opinion that providing the opening clause 'As with the Prime Minister,' to the beginning of the first sentence of that paragraph helps to clarify the Constitution's literal relationship with the Conventions, and Cabinet's literal status and its practical status by demonstrating that it shares its differential status with the most obvious and Conventionally-powerful non-Constitutional role in Australian Government; those who seek to better understand the difference in status between the Constitutional and Conventional can, using this additional information, use the far more voluminous (literally, ha ha!) volumes on the likened role to complement the relatively-little (more dense, more 'academic') material on this subject alone.
 * I can provide extra refs if needed (although current refs cover the additional information). I'm happy, also, to provide 'further reading' specific to the data I have added, and there should probably be an internal link placed on the PM, which I will do just now when I find which PM page is ours. Charlie Sanders (talk) 02:15, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Internal link to PM (hopefully) added. Further reading, and extra citations?, on the topic of Constitutional status vs Conventional status, now including broader material as per the addition of the similarity of status to the PM, can follow, if thought interesting, relevant, or complementary to current reading material. Let me know. :D Charlie Sanders (talk) 02:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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