Talk:Cable television piracy

Article improvement
I will be adding to this article some more over time. If anyone else wants to help and would like some information from me feel free to ask questions. This is a subject that I happen to know a lot about. Sykko (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

This article's language need to be changed; also it needs to be renamed to some like "prohibited copying of cable singles" or "unauthorized copying of cable information" or something of that nature. By saying "cable theft" your agree with Hollywood and the cable industry on the idea that using cable is like stealing ; that's and any other opinion is against the NPOV policy. Icedog (talk) 02:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Cable theft means something else in the UK
In the UK, "cable theft" almost never means obtaining cable TV services for free. It means the physical theft of copper cable from the telephone companies or lineside railway equipment, with the consequent disruption of telephony/internet access or delays to passengers.

A UK-specific search for "cable theft" confirms the above:

Suggest an header added to this article to link to an existing/new one about physical cable theft.


 * I've moved the page to create a disambiguation at cable theft, although metal theft should be the primary meaning and this should simply redirect there. K7L (talk) 01:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Watching cable online
Would watching an unauthorised online stream of cable channels count here? FotoPhest (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 6 February 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Sceptre (talk) 20:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Cable television piracy → Cable theft (television) – The COMMONNAME, and truly the only name used outside Wikipedia for this topic is cable theft - see this article's own references. At one time there was concern that cable theft was too POV, but the current title is even more POV, and is not a term commonly used elsewhere, and thus seems to have been invented for Wikipedia. 'Cable theft' is not neutral either, however it is more neutral, and is the common name. There exists no natural disambiguation solution for the title that is better than the parenthetical disambiguation in this instance, and COMMONNAME shouldn't be disregarded only to avoid using parenthetical disambiguation. 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:F054:8FB:E70D:BC14 (talk) 20:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose "Cable theft" is a vague term that can also mean metal theft. It makes it unclear whether it is the literal cables being stolen or the service. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:09, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The current title is perfectly fine. Even if "cable theft" is a more common term, which I'm not sure that it is, the current title is a good use of natural disambiguation. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:42, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. “Cable theft” most commonly refers to physical theft of cables. By translation, this would mislead readers to think the proposed title refers to physical theft of television cables. Alternatively a title such as “theft of cable television services” or “cable theft (television services)” may be more workable. Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 11:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Proposed new title is ambiguous. ~Kvng (talk) 16:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose I've actually thought of this for several days since 'cable television' really also includes online services now, but this is truly specific, and the sister topic of satellite piracy leads to the equivalent topic of Pirate decryption. Metal theft is specifically about the theft of infrastructure, as in copper cables, while Cable television piracy is about the theft of television and entertainment services, be they through traditional wireline or online services, and theft of services and wardriving specifically talk about leeching off someone's broadband cable services via wi-fi. The specificity of the article title describes what is contained in the article, and is proper.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 22:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)