Talk:Cacerolazo

"The term cacerolazo in the above sense was first used in Argentina during 2001, as the colloquial name of the protests"... this is a lie... 'cause the first time that caserolazo were usea where in Chile en bethwen 1971 and 1973... after that was used bethwen 1982 and 1989 when PInochet was the Dictator... please, someone who write well englis change it...

(en español) los caserolazos fueron usados primero en Chile, entre 1971 y el '73 cuando allende estaba en el poder, (como lo dice la pagina en español) y después cuando PInochet estaba en el poder entre el 81 y el 89 mayormente... porfavor cambielo alguien que escriba correctamente el inglés... gracias...

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 * The above is correct. For now I am going to do a quick fix, but eventually I will try to translate the whole Spanish "Cacerolazo" article into English. --Brian Z 00:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

2012
Reversing changes done by user Tom Paine, who is invited to discuss the article in question. In the mean time, the two current version should survive to give the opportunity to the reader, to access both versions. --Walawal (talk) 01:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Algeria
According to the fr-Wikipedia, this form of protest started in Algeria in 1961:

"Un concert de casseroles ou casserolade, nommé en espagnol cacerolazo ou une cacerolada, est une forme de protestation populaire pratiquée à la fin de la guerre d'Algérie dans les villes d'Algérie, et utilisée plus tard dans certains pays hispanophones - en particulier le Vénézuéla, le Chili, l'Argentine et l'Uruguay — qui consiste à frapper des ustensiles domestiques de métal, dont des casseroles, qui nomment la pratique. L'intention de cette manifestation est d'appeler l'attention par le biais du bruit produit."

"Le phénomène prend forme en Algérie vers 1961 comme une protestation populaire des Pieds-Noirs favorables au maintien de l'Algérie française, contre la politique gaullienne d'autodétermination et contre l'indépendance de l'Algérie, souvent à l'initiative de l'OAS. Il consiste en des concerts nocturnes, où les habitants, montés sur les terrasses, ou depuis leur balcon, scandent sur des casseroles en style télégraphique trois brèves et deux longues symbolisant Al-gé-rie Fran-çaise." (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_de_casseroles)

I really don't know how to insert this piece of knowledge in this article, but I believe it should be there somehow. --Betty VH (talk) 21:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

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Origin
The Wikipedia article in French says that this practice originated during the beginning of the July Monarchy (~1830):

"Le phénomène socio-politique moderne du concert de casseroles remonte en France au début de la monarchie de Juillet."

The article in Spanish mentions that the first of such protests (cacerolazos) took place in 1961, during the Algerian War.

I don't know why the article in English seems to ignore those moments when claiming that "This type of manifestation started in 1971 in Chile".

For what it's worth, after a quick search on Google, I think that the claim that the practice took place during the July Monarchy has some merit. See, for instance, this book on the history of the July Monarchy, in French, published in 1884. Enacional (talk) 06:22, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * A source in Spanish for Algerian protests in 1961. The newspaper uses the expression "noches de las cacerolas" (nights of pots). Lin linao (talk) 17:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Change title; should use italics
Since this is a Spanish word the title should be written in italics, i.e. Cacerolazo. Such changes should then be made in the text also.Calmecac5 (talk) 20:09, 11 January 2021 (UTC)