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--JeffGBot (talk) 07:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

FIFA conspiracy theory
The decision to ban Mexico from all competitions, senior as well as underage, was unprecedented. New Straits Times - Jul 2, 1988, p.F23 claims similar offences in 1981 and 1982 by Honduras and North Korea resulted only in bans from underage competitions. Age fraud in association football doesnt seem to list anything similar. The ban was handed out just days days before the USA was named hosts of the 1994 World Cup, and I remember suggestions at the time in the British and Irish press that it was all part of a FIFA conspiracy to ensure the USA qualified for 1990 to build public interest there.

The closest statement I could find online is in this Sports Illustrated piece which says...


 * it seems as if there's almost a conspiracy at work to assure the U.S. a berth in the World Cup finals. Last summer, for instance, FIFA hit Mexico with a two-year suspension from international competition for using overage players in an under-20 world championship qualifier the previous April. Mexico is traditionally the top dog in CONCACAF, the confederation of North American, Central American and Caribbean countries that makes up the U.S.'s qualifying group. Next, lightly regarded Guatemala, in a major upset, eliminated Canada in second-round play, and Trinidad and Tobago disposed of another perennial power, Honduras.

...reference to the elimination of Canada and Honduras would suggest merely that the fates are conspiring, not the suits (unless those teams are also in on FIFA's plot).

This blog post quotes a book which claims to skewer the myth that the US qualified in 1990 only due to Mexico's ban...:


 * the team that finished ahead of the United States was Costa Rica, which had been drawn against Mexico in the first round and got a bye into the second after Mexico was disqualified. If Mexico had not been disqualified, Mexico and Costa Rica could not have both finished ahead of the United States, because one of them would have been knocked out by the other in the first round

...however, just because a conspiracy turns out not to have been necessary does not mean it did not happen. In other words, the rebuttal disproves that USA was unworthy, but not that FIFA was guilty. jnestorius(talk) 23:51, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 14:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

1988 Mexico national football team scandal → Cachirules – The current name is inaccurate as the scandal did not involve the Mexico national football team, except as victims of the punishment meted out for it. You could go with 1988 Mexico overage association football players scandal, but I think the short name Cachirules is better than the long description. It may not be WP:USEENGLISH, but it is WP:COMMONNAME and certainly used in some English sources. --Relisted. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:00, 14 June 2014 (UTC) jnestorius(talk) 00:10, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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