Talk:Cair Paravel

(delete)
Given current Wikipedia policy to merge/redirect all fictional stubs, I'm being BOLD and redirecting this stub back to Narnia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P Ingerson  (talk • contribs) 11:24, 3 April 2005‎ (UTC)


 * Eight years later another editor has revived the proposal to delete this article. I agree.
 * This page should not redirect to Narnia, the main article, but to the section List of places in The Chronicles of Narnia, and that is primarily where appropriate content should be merged --perhaps including the Disney image, as the List will benefit from one.


 * We have other Places articles that should be deleted, certainly including Miraz's Castle. A quick tour show that this one and Lantern Waste alone carry images from the film; neither article covers the portrayal in film.
 * --P64 (talk) 15:02, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Support as the editor who proposed deletion and would be quite content to see the material here merged. DonIago (talk) 16:13, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Meaning of the name
Have any citable sources given an idea of what "Paravel" means? (assuming "cair" is connected to caer==fort?) The Wednesday Island 02:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm curious too. It sounds kind of French to me, which is cool.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.233.157 (talk) 07:07, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


 * An anonymous editor added that "Cair Paravel" meant "Lower court" in Old English, which is false, neither word exists in Old English (and cited source is unreliable). I am deleting this statement. "Cair" is almost certainly a variant of Welsh caer meaning "castle, citadel, fortified city". "Paravel" could be a variant of "paravail" which is Middle English from Old French meaning "lowest, bottom of a chain of authority" (opposite of "paramount"), but that meaning doesn't fit. It could be being used to mean simply "inferior" (to God/Aslan) as proposed by the source that falsely connected it to Old English, but that's questionable. The second half, "-avel", could also mean "apple", as in Welsh afel/Cornish avel, which would connect it to "Avalon" (Ynys Afallon: "Island of Apples"). Or it could simply have been chosen as a poetic sound combination with "Cair". Aidan (talk) 23:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Inspired by Dunluce Castle?
I have seen a number of tourist information leaflets (like this) claiming Lewis based Cair Paravel on the ruins of Dunluce Castle, on the Antrim coastline in Northern Ireland. Is this just a commonly held opinion or is there good evidence that C.S. used it as a basis? Catriona McM (talk) 15:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * While I personally have never heard that, it may indeed be true. Either way, if you can find a your bureau guide or something as a reliable source,it could be added as "Some claims[ref]..." Random  89  06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It may be true, as he based the landscape of Narnia on some mountain range in Northern Ireland, I forget which. Very vague, I know, but it shows that some elements in Narnia were based on Northern Ireland. TopGearFreak   Talk  18:25, 7 November 2008 (UTC)