Talk:Cairngorms

Dreish
Can someone write Dreish into this article so that Dreish is no longer a stub? Kingturtle (talk) 14:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I assume you mean no longer orphaned? I've moved it to the correct spelling (Driesh) so it now has a few links to it. Though is it actually in the Cairngorms anyway? According to this article, the southern boundary of the Cairngorms is along the River Dee, and Driesh is a fair bit south of that. --Vclaw (talk) 20:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Stricly speaking although Driesh is within the Cairngorms National Park - it isn't one of the Cairngorms. According to all the books I've read - the mountains south of the River Dee are in the Grampains. The naming and extent of the national park is leading to confusion. It probably should have had a more generic name like 'Eastern Highlands' or some such WikiWriter (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * May I remind you of the fact, that the Cairngorms are part of the Grampian (not: Grampain) Mountains ( or: Grampians) too ? See Grampian Mountains in Wikipedia. A German fan of Scotland:--87.169.111.184 (talk) 10:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Section and Map
The map needs a scale and a legend if possible. The section on Area section lacks any numerical reference (linear or areal). Please make these edits. 143.232.210.46 (talk) 23:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Photograph
The banner photo of the Cairngorms is, in my view, rather unrepresentative. Does anyone else feel this, and could a more recognisable landscape be inserted?

Cairngormranger (talk) 12:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Map
Someone might like to do something with the map in Location map Scotland Aberdeenshire ??FlagSteward (talk) 19:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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Plateaux or plateau?
A recent edit has changed this to the singular form although the sentence structures remain for multiple. The area can be considered as one plateau divided by several deep valleys (Larig Ghru etc) or as several separate plateaux. A quick Google search suggests the former. Is there any justification for retaining the multiple style? Finavon (talk) 09:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)


 * An earlier section explained this. I'm not sure when it was lost. Finavon (talk) 09:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's still there, it's in the Geography section now. I must admit I would tend to think of it as being one plateau divided by several deep valleys, but it's written the other way, and the edit I reverted had only removed the "x" from plateau without otherwise changing the sentences, so made no sense grammatically. (eg. "The Cairngorms consist of three large elevated plateau adorned with low, rounded glacial mountains"). Grinner (talk) 10:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Agreed; I saw the Geography heading after posting above. Formed as a single landmass, the high ground has has been eroded into three distinct plateaux. An SNH/BGS booklet and the SMC District Guide (A Watson) both refer to multiple plateaux. Happy to leave as plural, with the explanation. Finavon (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Glacial history
This statement currently within the Geology section - 'The highest present-day peaks represent eroded monadnock hills. During the ice ages, the ice caps that covered most of northern Scotland remained static, frozen to the ground for long periods and actually protected the rounded summits and valleys and deep, weathered granite of the mountains of the area.' - needs support from a reference both in respect of the monadnock element and of the static ice cap element. As regards the latter, it has been argued that a static ice cap in the eastern Cairngorms would have protected tors from being obliterated but to extend that immobility, as the phrasing suggests, across 'most of northern Scotland' is stretching credulity Geopersona (talk) 04:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Earlier elevation of mountains
The text currently asserts that the Cairngorms are 'the eroded stumps of once much higher mountains'. Is there evidence for this? A reference is given but, not having access to it, I can't comment. Their plateau character suggests otherwise. Certainly there has been prolonged denudation with suggestions of perhaps up to 1.5km of overburden removed since the Devonian (Glasser & Bennett: Quaternary of the Cairngorms field guide, QRA 1996, p3) but that doesn't necessarily mean the land surface was 1.5km higher - buoyed up pieces of earth's crust (and granite is a relatively light rock) respond like icebergs to having the top layers removed - the whole mass rises but the surface elevation may stay roughly constant. cheers Geopersona (talk) 06:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Size of Cairngorms
How big are the Cairngorms? The infobox says 292 sq.km (113 sq.mi) but that's just the converted size of "Cairngorms SSSI" (29226.7 ha), which judging by the SSI's map, seems to be only a small part of the whole plateau. One or two websites quote a Cairngorms size of 1,107 sq.km / 428 sq.miles, but where they get the figure from is unclear (ie. unidentified). Cairngorms National Park is much larger than the Cairngorms as it also includes most of the surrounding hills, and is 4,528 sq.km (1,748 sq.miles). It seems to me that the Cairngorms size is probably a quarter of the Park's size (ie. 1,107 sq.km) rather than just a tenth (ie. 292.sq.km), but I can't find a verifiable source for the 1,107 sq.km. Can someone check it out and, if neccessary, amend the Cairngorms article's stated "size"? Pete Hobbs (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)