Talk:Caldicot and Wentloog Levels

Divine intervention?
"The levels are entirely the work of man ..." seems quite a bold claim. In fact, considering the necessity for such resources as time, light, gravity and matter, I can't really think of ANY material structure that desevres such a description! Any suggestions? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point - I've reworded it to "The levels are formed from marine and fluvial tidal deposits and alluvium, which ha s ve been recurrently inundated and reclaimed from the Severn Estuary by humans since Roman times." Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that looks much better. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Wentloog or Wentlooge?
I've restored a name change, because it was contrary to two article names. It's a fair question though, so what do people think?

AFAIK (which isn't much) the historical version of this is Wentloog in sources close to the original Welsh and Wentlooge is both relatively recent and relatively English. Certainly the C&W IDB use Wentlooge today. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it's one of those names (like Trellech/ Trelleck/ Treleck etc.) that never became standardised. We have Wentlooge, but Wentloog (hundred).  I agree with you that the version without the e is probably preferable for the article title, but I think we should note the spelling variations in the text.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What Andy says surprises me. I had always assumed that the -e suiffiz was the more archaic form. Would one expect any effect on pronunciation? I think Goldcliff sometimes still gets spelled Goldcliffe (by some residents at least). But I had always presumed that was simply a quaint local affectation. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's less about age and more about the conversion from Welsh to English. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I studied under John Allen at Reading who's published extensively on the sediments there, he spells it with the e, although it is pronounced as though it doesn't have one Bigdavenorcott

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