Talk:California City, California

I added a history section to this article as well as some references, links, and other information. I removed the stub tag, as the article seems fairly complete for such a small city. In the demographics section, an anonymous user had changed the population to 9,098, which contradicts the first sentence of the article and the data that I could find on the Census Bureau site, so I changed the population back to 8,385. If someone thinks the 2000 Census population was 9,098, please provide your source or explain your reasoning here before changing it back. PubliusFL 19:16, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I happen to live in this city and both of the posters on this talk page are wrong, as well as the page itself. The prison only employees over 300 employees which wouldnt be "Much of the cities workforce." I am actually sort of shocked that people who might not even live there still come up with their own assumptions. around 10,000 people live here, and 3% of them doesnt count for MUCH of the workforce. This thing really needs to be fixed or left alone by people who do not have the correct information.--129.198.241.62 19:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I *did* live in Cal City for a few years. Just down Neuralia from the shopping center with the grocery store. 3% of the population (which would be something like 5% of the workforce) is pretty significant for a single employer. And "much of the city's workforce" referred to the prison and Edwards AFB *together*. Surely that is indisputable.  The prison must be the largest employer located *in* Cal City, eh? PubliusFL 17:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I looked up "supermarket". No clear definition. Having had a girlfriend from there, I've been there many times and have some familiarity with CC, and have been to the local...well...market? many times. Is someone trying to say CC is ripe for a Vons? Maybe. A Wal-Mart? Doubt it. "Business opportunity" is a relative term and should be approached with caution. I think CC works pretty well with the market they have. I doubt they could support a 100,000 sq-ft "supermarket." Middlenamefrank 06:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * My deepest apologies to anyone who lives in, works in, or even has to travel through this desolate morgue-like city. Cal-City is a real life version of the fictional Radiator Springs of the Disney move Cars and could possibly be the inspiration of the Radiator Springs idea... There is a reason that NO county, state, or federal highways enter this place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.168.7.243 (talk) 21:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed the line about the whole as of 2007 there are no grocery stores and hospital but because that line really has no place being there namely because the first half is wrong. As a resident of California City I can tell you we do, it's actually called the "Market" it's a decent sized building not huge but not too small that has just about everything you would need from a grocery store now grant it the prices may be a little high but we do in fact have one. As for the hospital i don't see the point in having a lone line of text saying how far it is to a hospital. IF maybe it was worked into a more detailed description of the city then that would be OK. --Emrys Pennent (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violation checked
This article was flagged for a possible copyright violation of text from this website, including the history and demographics sections. A review of the editing history shows the history section was first begun with this edit on 3 September 2006. Archives of the califcity.com website show that section didn't appear until 3 February 2007. The califcity.com website copied the text from the Wikipedia article. I have removed the Copyvio template. — Cactus Writer |   needles  15:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Good detective work, thanks! CSZero (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Temperatures
According to the lede: "Year-round temperatures range from about 33 °F (1 °C) to about 118 °F (48 °C)." But the table in the Climate section shows that 33 degrees is the **average** December low, while 118 degrees must be the all-time record summer high, as the July average high is only 97 degrees. It might be better not to mix apples and oranges in the same sentence. For now I've changed the sentence to reflect typical temperatures, not the extremes. Record low and high could be put in the Climate section, if someone has reliable data. Piperh (talk) 21:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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One of the fastest growing towns in state
In the top 10 list, California City along with other California desert towns (Adelanto, Apple Valley, Cathedral City, Coachella, Desert Hot Springs, Hesperia, Indio-fastest in Eastern Riverside County, Lancaster, Palmdale and Victorville-fastest in Southern California) have 50-100% growth rates in the past decade (since 2010). These are popular real estate bargains and have lower cost housing than the coastal urban areas. And all have large Hispanic/Latino pluralities or majorities, esp. from massive immigration and relocation from Central L.A. to the suburbs. 2605:E000:100D:E482:E41A:DD9:EED0:F58 (talk) 17:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 19 April 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW: WP:USPLACE will be enforced each and every time until and unless it is changed. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

California City, California → California City – According to the convention WP:CONCISE, article titles should be no longer than is necessary to identify the subject. There is currently no article titled "California City", and as far as I am aware no other notable place in the world with the same name. Muc-mhara (talk) 22:37, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE, "Articles on populated places in the United States are typically titled Placename, State" and "articles in [this] format should have the city name redirected to the full name". There is an exception for "cities listed in the AP Stylebook as not requiring the state modifier in newspaper articles", but it is not listed there. 62.165.198.73 (talk) 03:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE. California City does not fall under the 'AP Stylebook' exception like Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Francisco do. Please see Perennial proposals for the rationale of WP:USPLACE. The consensus in the numerous archived discussions regarding WP:USPLACE (listed near the top of WT:NCGN) is that a consistent convention, commonly-used by most reliable American sources, overrides conciseness on these article names. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:01, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:USPLACE. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Official abbreviation
The article (currently) says it is abbreviated Cal City. I searched Google for Cal City and got 218,000 results. I then searched for Calif City and got 200,000 results (and Google recognized that as an abbreviation for California City). So if Cal City is an official abbreviation then there should be an authority cited for that. Otherwise the abbreviation seems to be a matter of personal preference. Sam Tomato (talk) 00:55, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Official website
City of California City sure appears to be the official website so I added it. I hope that is correct. Sam Tomato (talk) 00:15, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Population: The demographics listed are not added correctly.
Population: The Latin/Hispanic origin #'s are apparently counted as 'white' in the wikipedia population segment. For some reason, they have the 'White/Caucasian' as 61% and then if you add all other ethnicities listed, you will get a total that is over 100%. Therefore, you must deduct the Latin/Hispanic percentage from the White/Caucasian percentage. I am not sure why this was done and I do hope that it was a simple error rather than an attempt to make the city appear more 'white' in this current MAGA environment we are living through. Thugedum (talk) 16:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC)