Talk:California State Route 58/Archive 1

Kramer Junction
Can junctions be added in the location column? The "location" column is for cities, census-designated places, and named junctions. I think it's widely established that we can add Kramer Junction in. It's a "location" column, not a "city" column. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Incorporated locations should only go in that column. --Rschen7754 (T C) 03:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not asking you because obviously I already know your answer. I was more specifically asking NE2 since he added the junctions. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then hit him up at his talk page. I'm told by the others on IRC that we do include census-designated places; however, Kramer Jct. is not a CDP - as a few years back, a bot created articles for all the CDPs. Thus, Kramer Jct. is not a CDP as it is a redlink. --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So why don't you go remove all the other junctions then? Why just the one on the SR 58 article? ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been putting unincorporated locations in that column for a while, and it makes sense when it's a small community that's grown up around that junction. It doesn't make as much sense when it's a large CDP that happens to include the intersection. --NE2 06:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how signage for Kramer Junction is on SR 58, but a similar example is Vidal Junction at SR 62 and US 95 - the place is specifically noted on signs. I think if there are no signs for an unincorporated place, it shouldn't be listed, but if it's noted on the road, and the intersection is definitely within it, it makes sense to note it. Kramer Junction does appear on mileage signs on US 395. --NE2 08:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I use unincorporated places all the time out in Oklahoma, mostly because it seems like a lot of intersections are "in the middle of nowhere" and we'd need to have a blank cell otherwise. If you're queasy about having a redlink, just make the article. has a short bit about Kramer Junction that would be enough for a stub.—Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 19:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

If the place name is reasonably well-known in the area, I don't see why it can't be used as a location, whether it is incorporated or not. If the place name is used on highway signs, then definitely include it. And if the redlink is the problem, go ahead and create a one-sentence stub. Places, no matter how insignificant, apparently only need to satisfy verfiability without the need to satisfy notability. --Polaron | Talk 03:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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