Talk:California State Route 91/Archive 1

cleanup-infobox
Why is there a template:cleanup-infobox on this article? Can it be deleted? Blank Verse 10:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Because the infobox is way too big. --SPUI (T - C) 11:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That's only one opinion. Many other users feel it's a fine infobox as there is no such thing as a "too big" infobox per Wikipedia policies. Feel free to remove the tag at your convenience. JohnnyBGood   t   c  VIVA! 17:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

History notes
From : Over existing county pavements in Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties, this route would furnish a direct connection from the Coast state highway at Newport to San Bernardino. Practically all of this road is already paved. Maintenance and reconstruction would be necessary in the future. High standards of grading and paving.
 * 216. Santa Ana to San Bernardino. Length 34 miles.
 * 217. Newport Beach to Santa Ana. Length 6 miles.

This route is designed to furnish direct and short connection from Barstow, California, to Las Vegas, Nevada. The federal aid authorities are urging the inclusion of this road as a necessary link in the federal aid route from Salt Lake City, Utah, to Los Angeles. The state of Nevada is also urging its inclusion in the California highway system. Country desert, much sand, little water, some available deposits of native rock and gravel. Maximum elevation 4500 feet. Topographical conditions not difficult for good location and construction. Minimum standards of grading and rock surfacing.
 * 219. Arrowhead Trail (Silver Lake Cut-off). Length 125 miles.


 * Maps of south end
 * 1946: Barstow
 * 1953: Long Beach

- earliest I have near San Bernardino is 1943 (Colton, Riverside)
 * Original (?) route of SR 18, apparently built in 1935
 * Cajon Boulevard, Mt. Vernon Avenue, Valley Boulevard (later North La Cadena Drive), La Cadena Drive, Russell Street, Main Street, 1st Street, Market Street, Magnolia Avenue, 6th Street
 * Yorba Street, Pomona Road, Auto Center Drive, Pomona Rincon Road, south from the east end of the Prado Dam, just north of rail line, Prado Road
 * Bypassed early by Palisades Drive, Green River Road
 * SR 91 (minor changes can be seen on current topos), curvy alignment south of SR 91 between SR 241 and Weir Canyon Road (also bypassed early), Santa Ana Canyon Road, Orange Olive Road, Lincoln Avenue, Carson Street

1947 Anaheim, 1947 Corona


 * Freeway history (mostly from bridge dates)
 * 1974, I-110 to I-710
 * 
 * 1970-71, I-710 to SR 19
 * September 17, 1970, Atlantic Avenue to SR 19:
 * 1968-70, SR 19 to I-5
 * November 1968, SR 19 to Studebaker Road:
 * Before November 1968, Studebaker Road to Artesia Boulevard? (first section west of I-5)
 * June 1969, Artesia Boulevard to SR 39:
 * August 6, 1970, SR 39 to I-5:
 * 1958-59, I-5 to State College Boulevard
 * 1964-67, State College Boulevard to SR 55 (was a surface road from 1961)
 * 1970-71, SR 55 to Maple Street (was a surface road)
 * 1961, Maple Street to Magnolia Avenue
 * 1959, Magnolia Avenue to Arlington Avenue
 * 1957, Arlington Avenue to SR 60
 * 1961, SR 60 to La Cadena Drive (was a surface road)
 * 1959, La Cadena Drive to I-10
 * September 26, 1959:



--NE2 00:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Ownership of toll lanes
Are the toll lanes on the 91 privately owned? See http://americancityandcounty.com/mag/government_making_inroads_private/ Sarsaparilla (talk) 03:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
Although SR-91 is an east-west road, it inherited its odd (as opposed to even) route number from the now mostly decommissioned U.S. Route 91 (U.S. 91)

Shouldn't the above go in the trivia section? 67.172.125.13 04:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, there should not be a trivia section in this article. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 19:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

But that is kind of a cool factoid... and is relevant because the north/south odd east/west even convention started here in CA. Dark Nexus (talk) 08:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It didn't; California didn't adopt the system of sign route numbers until 1934. --NE2 00:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I would like to know if anyone can direct me to the correct place to get up-to-date information on the SR-91 expansion project in the harbor Interatate 5 area. It is a matter of the imminent domain, which will mean home owners in this area will be forced out thier homes. Please assist me in finding the current status of the mentioned project, so I can share this data with other home owneres that have approached me with thier concerns about this matter. Contact me @ Philipcoleyf@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.81.201 (talk) 18:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

SR-107 junction
Does SR 107 still exist or not. Well, truck list hilight it in gray I beleive SR 107 is decomd, and Caltrans seems to no longer maintain that route.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 01:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Reassessment?
Should this article qualify for B or C-Class? This page was edited by ĈĠ 19:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

91 Express Lanes merger
I think the express lanes should be merged into this article. After the merge and a good copyedit, I think it could pass GAN. –Fredddie™ 04:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. --Rschen7754 04:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - No need for the express lanes to have their own article, they are essentially part of CA 91.  Dough 48  72  04:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Support :Jay8g Hi!- I am... -What I do... WASH- BRIDGE- WPWA - MFIC- WPIM 17:29, 24 September 2011 (UTC) Done! Tell me if you have any problems with the merge :Jay8g Hi!- I am... -What I do... WASH- BRIDGE- WPWA - MFIC- WPIM 20:28, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Really entirely a limited-access highway?
The Lawndale, California article states, "Lawndale is serviced by Interstate 405 and by Artesia Blvd., Hwy 91, which becomes State Route 91, a freeway, further east..." What exactly does it mean "Highway 91" if not "California (i.e., State) Route 91"? Either the Lawndale article should be updated with the proper designation, or else this article's assertion "...it is entirely a freeway" (limited access highway) is incorrect... which is true? Wlindley (talk) 03:12, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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