Talk:Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)

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Alter-Ego Pictures
Should Calvin's alter-ego section each contain its own picture in the various costumes? --Blank24 17:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Evil Calvin!
Seem to remember a run of strips where Calvin's evil counterpart made an appearance. Worth a mention on this article? -- Oscar The Cat talk 18:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Evil Calvin? I remember one strip where he describes an evil duplicate from a parallel universe and a Sunday strip where aliens replaced him with a robot. I don't recall it being the subject of a storyline though. Feezo (Talk) 14:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't remember one either. There is one where there is a good Calvin who shows up. JoshuaZ 06:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a storyline where Calvin duplicates imself and all his duplicates are "evil" because they are duplicates... adamfc 23:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Question
Does anybody know how many anniversary books Patterson has written? LEOnardo 13:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

How tall is Calvin? 15 August 2007

thx
Thanks to feezo,info appreciated LEOchild 12:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Isn't John Calvin more important?
If so, shouldn't the query of "Calvin" go to his page instead? Hugo.Lacerda 20:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * A query of merely Calvin does indeed redirect to the Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes character) page. This could be because Calvin the cartoon character does not have a surname, therefore someone searching for just "Calvin" is looking for the cartoon character?  The important thing is that there's a disambig link at the top of the cartoon character's page, pointing people at the John Calvin page. If you believe this naming is incorrect, you may want to take a read of Requested moves. --Oscarthecat[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px|]] 20:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Good call. Thanks for the helpful reply! Hugo.Lacerda 03:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Hobbes
Since Hobbes only exists as sentient in Calvin's imagination, couldn't he be considered one of calvin's alter-egos? He is, after all, merely an extension of Calvin's imagination and their dialogue could be construed as conversation between two sides of Calvin's personality? Antimatter 23:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hobbes is a completely seperate persona than Calvin is, and his reality is not completely dismissed by most readers, not to mention the creator of the cartoon. See Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes) for more information about Hobbes' reality. - Mike 23:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Calvin Peeing
Shouldn't there be a section about the decals featuring Calvin peeing on car logos and other symbols?
 * Those are illegal copyright violations, although they are rather notable. They are discussed a bit at Calvin and Hobbes though, which is probably more where that info belongs -  Mike   | trick or treat   21:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Stupendous Man's origins
As I recall, Stupendous Man first made an appearance in a Sunday strip where he had the cape, but not the hood. I don't remember if he was actually called "Stupendous Man" at the time - someone with the books might want to check on that. I think it's near the end of "The Authoritative Calvin and Hobbes". Also, I recall a weekday strip where Calvin turned into "Captain Napalm".

That wasn't Stupendous Man, it was just Calvin with a cape, and trying to save the world, when he trips on the cape.Darthan the destroyer 15:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Calvin did have one other Superhero appearance as Captain Napalm, but couldn't get out of his closet. Darthan the destroyer 17:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Clones
I notice that the Duplicates of Calvin generated by the duplicator are referred to as "clones." This isn't technically correct, and they re referred to as "duplicates" in the comic. So if no one objects, I'm going to change it.

199.126.217.84 20:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)MilliganPierce

The duplicates are clones. Darthan the destroyer 15:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

They are called duplicates, I looked it up in the book.

Article quality
The article quality is quite horrendous. It's simply a list of arbitrary escapades, even lacking spoiler warnings. With no insight regarding Calvin himself, this article is useless. I might try to find some more information to add.Silence(water) 20:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * And I really wonder what this paragraph ist trying to tell us about Calvin: "The French philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau was born in Geneva (under Calvinist rule) and wrote The Social Contract (inspired by Thomas Hobbes). His book Émile is about the upbringing of a young boy and the role of freedom and imagination in his development" --91.45.236.242 (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It's meant as a philosophical reference. Obviously that section as a whole is kind of suspect, but the purpose should be clear.  TheStickMan [✆Talk] 13:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I thought the same upon reading this today, it seems like a collection of notes about things he does in the comic, with the occasional piece of original research or unverified claims. I actually think maybe the article should be deleted or merged with Calvin and Hobbes since it adds little to nothing more than that article.80.7.59.211 (talk) 19:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Unidentified prodigy
Calvin clearly shows many similarities to very intelligent children who don't get the special attention they would require. Such children can be bored easily and refuse to do any work in school and are often thought to be slightly mentally chalanged. Calvins skill at reading is far above the usuall for 1st graders and his language exceptionally elaborate. He refuses to do his work at school though it shouldn't be a problem at all and is aparently unable to connect with other children his age, except Susi, who is also above average in intelect. He is extremely imagitive and artistic, to the point of genius. The comic is often satirical and meant for adult readers but I think it wouldn't be a bad Idea to point at the similarities between the character and prodigy children. But my english fails me in such complex things, maybe someone else might add a few lines about this to the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Unless you can verify that the connection was intended, or that there is a widespread agreement, i'm pretty sure we can't put that in, even though i've often thought the same thing. Ageofe 02:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * that certainly sounds a lot like me in gradeschool... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.33.198.74 (talk) 00:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Adoption
Should there be noted that Calvin looks nothing like his parents (he's blond while they've brown hair). And in one strip when Calvin makes a sarcastic commentary I think, his dad thinks to himself that they «should have get one with his own appartement» or something like that, although that in other strip Calvin's mother makes clear that they concieved him. --Midasminus 17:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hamster Huey
"Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie", by Mabel Syrup, is an important part of the strip—it even has a sequel: "Commander Coriander Salamander And 'Er Singlehander Bellylander". Why aren't they there? OneWeirdDude (talk) 03:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They are included in the main Calvin and Hobbes article where they belong. Custardninja (talk) 06:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Wunderkind
I don't think that 'Wunderkind' is Calvins surname. It is a german term (literally translation 'wonder child') for a very gifted child, which e.g. studies Physics at an age of 6 or composes symphonies like Mozart did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.7.33 (talk) 10:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Wasteful Talk Pages
I think that anything that was posted before 2011 should be archived.TAS1957 (talk) 16 August 2011 (UTC)


 * That may be, and I actually agree too, but if it is not archived, its not archived. Just how it goes. LikeLakers2 (talk) 01:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Terrible!
I've read this article, and I think it kind of gives Calvin a bad name. I mean, sure he has a streak of terror at moments, but so does Susie. He's a kind-hearted kid who worries more about his tiger than himself. He is the main protagonist and was civil with Susie several times. His cunning ambitions (such as trying to "whack" Susie Derkins with a snowball) are results from the pains of being a child and should be forgave from that. His trouble with Susie leads us to a chicken or the egg thing, and that probably comes from a stupid mistake such as a harmless prank when they were very little. Bottom line is, he may be a little devious, but he's no Stewie Griffin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ObiwanLostToBarney (talk • contribs) 21:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The Noodle Incident
The June 10, 1989 strip makes absolutely no mention of the "noodle incident" and is likely unrelated. Bill Watterson has stated that many aspects of the strip were intentionally left to the readers' imaginations and this is almost certainly one of those times. To micro-analyze the details of the noodle incident is a blow to the humor of the strip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spetnik (talk • contribs) 20:37, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Calvin's alter egos (Calvin and Hobbes)

 * The following discussion is closed. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
 * The result was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 20:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Exclusively in-universe writing that would be better summarized as discussion on the character of Calvin than as its own topic. Izno (talk) 17:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't merge - There's material here that enhances the main article. Jus  da  fax   09:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Student Editing
Hello my friends! For a university project I'm going to be working on improving this page. Calvin as a character has a lot of potential for a great page, but as most of the previous talkers have pointed out, it's in disarray right now. After spending a few days considering other comic character pages and their layouts, I believe this page can be resurrected into the brilliant homage that Calvin so very well deserves. I'll be taking into consideration all of the past discussions, and I'd appreciate any input and conversation from anyone else who might be keeping an eye on this page. Let's make Calvin great again. TheLoneDeranger (talk) 10:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Massive Re-Write

As you have undoubtedly discovered, I have removed a substantial amount of content from this article. A very substantial amount of the information that I re-structured was excessively descriptive and written with a casual voice uncharacteristic of Wikipedia. It is my hope that I have preserved the message of the information in more concise and archival language. Details such as the character's inventions, some supposed "noodle incident," or how they feel about Christmas are too specific for the scope of this article. For example, in an article about Godzilla, I would not mention that he likes to eat humans and prefers the ones that scream loudest. In an article about Dade Murphy, I wouldn't mention that spandex is a priviledge; not a right. The tiers of text (eg header, subheader, subsubheader, etc) are integrations of their parent. For example, an article about Calvin might include mention that he's creative, and an article about Calvin's creations might include mention that one of them was called a Transmogrifier. Yeah. Suck on that logic. So... yeah, prolly feels kinda suck for whoever loves Calvin so much that they wrote all that, but this is how it is, my dude. If you can amass sufficient cite-able information, you could write such aforementioned sub-articles about specific aspects of the character Calvin, if you really believe that the valarians who will later study the human species ought to know at what time Calvin might awaken on some December 25th. After all, at some level of differentiation you're literally equal to the original documents, which were recovered in full from the remains of the ancient data vault. Yes, more detail could be added to this article by an expert on Calvin and Hobbes, but take a lesson from the previous iteration of this article; take heed of the concept explained above. Hey, you said to be bold, so here's bold. TheLoneDeranger (talk) 05:19, 22 March 2018 (UTC)