Talk:Cambion

Cambion
I have moved the engineering references to here - as this is a D&D article. I didn't want to just delete them in case someone wants to create another article.

Cambion is also a trade name for electronics parts derived from the name of the late Cam bridge Thermionic Corporat ion and the brand name of a line of shock-absorbing insoles.

History of the trade name Cambion

Cambion insoles


 * Makes sense. Those Cambions are a replaceable insole, and these Cambions are replaced in-soul. 71.59.195.54 (talk) 03:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup
I've moved the external links section to the end of the page and added some links and footnotes. --Urban Blom 15:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Malleus Maleficarum
The quoted text is identical to that of the 1928 English translation by Montague Summers. --Urban Blom 15:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Huh?
If this is a medieval legend, then why does it make reference to the electrical activity of the brain? ("its brain operates on thetawaves" in intro) Zetawoof(&zeta;) 19:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I would guess because some new-agey editor got his or her hands on it. Be bold & edit it out, or if I get a chance in a little bit I will.  Good call.  -mordicai. 19:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Alright, I removed it, though the wording of "no signs of life without being alive" is still wonky & bad, even if it does go on to explain what is meant by that. -mordicai. 20:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Modern demonology is why it speaks of thetawaves. Also likely has a link to the fact that a succubus and incubus are demons that inhabit dreams and that the thetawave is the most active brainwave while dreaming. Therealsquee 01:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Therealsquee (talk • contribs) 01:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

Self-cuckholding
This process described as passing on sperm from male to female and back to others to create a child unrelated to the sexual partners reminds me of the anthropological description of self-cuckholdry: i.e. a man (one more-likely with foreskin than without) has sexual relations (i.e. engages in penile to vaginal coitus) with a woman who has recently reciprocated another males ejaculate intravaginally. This man gets the spermatazoon of the other man on the smegma produced from the copulation of the couple upon this glans and shaft of his genitalia (preserved potentially by the foreskin of the penis). This mans next female sexual partner can then become impregnated by the initial partner mentioned who was with the last woman. Thus a woman could in times before technology and without intentional insertion of a males seed, become impregnated by a man she has never slept with. Also on a personal note a friend of mine recently gave birth to a child named "Camden." ;-P Nagelfar (talk) 01:42, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone clearly needs to get out more. Or less.  62.196.17.197 (talk) 16:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

mix and match with the destiny of human linage.
Have any authors postulated that there's nothing evil or corrupt in the nature of the seed themselves according to the folklore of how Cambions are born; but rather it is that demons are simply masters of selecting corrupt nurturers or bad genetic matches or simply improper otherwise good nurturers for the specific otherwise genetically fine match.? I think of the rise of the autistic spectrum when I think of genes alone for example. 71.59.195.54 (talk) 03:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Origin of the word
The article doesn't cite the origin of the word Cambion. Is it from the Malleus Maleficarum or from a different source? Did the word even exist before RPGs started using it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:980:D047:1:25C8:6906:C46D:31C4 (talk) 11:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Recent coinage
This word was not used prior to RPG use - it does not appear in the OED or Mirriam Webster dictionaries. Google Books has no relevant entries prior to 1950. The article should make this clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.164.39 (talk) 10:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Well I ended up trying to delete because this article is ridiculous. See the D&D version. That's all there is to say. I tried to delete then to redirect but apparently that's not how thing are done here. I give up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.194.105.47 (talk) 23:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Messed up definition
This article says that cambions are the offspring of humans and demons, but all the relevant quotes such as that from De Plancy state very clearly that they're the offspring of two demons, without any human intervention. The process through which demons receive semen and impregnate women is a separate issue, which, by the way, is not properly defined. There is no such thing as female succubi and male incubi. There are demons (usually male-gendered demons like Satan) that sometimes act like succubi, and then this same demon changes into an incubus to complete the process.193.33.2.101 (talk) 06:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I changed the definition, having read the article. But was reverted - will re-revert an refer to the talk page. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 07:07, 13 August 2018 (UTC).

"In popular culture"
Okay, so it seems clear that cambions were originally meant to be understood as the children of two demons, and only later got mixed up with ideas of human/demon reproduction. Where does that leave the current list at the end, with its "pop culture" cambions? I'll copy it here: I added some citation needed templates, but are any of these characters referred to in canon as cambions? If cambions are not human/demon hybrids, and these human/demon hybrid characters are never actually referred to as cambions, then they shouldn't be on the page. Sgallison (talk) 01:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Merlin the legendary wizard, alchemist, and teacher/advisor to King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table is the son of a demon with a human woman, this being the source of his power.
 * Dante and his brother Vergil from the Devil May Cry series are cambions, being the offspring of the Demon Knight Sparda and angel Eva, causing them both to have powers and white hair due to their heritage.
 * Hellboy is a cambion, being the offspring of the demon Azzael and a human woman, Sarah Hughes.
 * Rachel Roth, or Raven from DC Comics, is a cambion, being the offspring of Trigon and Angela Roth.